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Finally, the U.S. has woken up. Wealthy people who live in unfree and illiberal countries want and need access to the West or life would be miserable. They want access to New York City, arguably the world's capital, for business and entertainment. It has Wall Street and Broadway, a few blocks from each other. Beijing and Shanghai have nothing to match.
Oh yes, we all know how Communist China would show compassion and release two people it claimed were actual "criminals" in a "good will" gesture while having run over it's own citizens with tanks. They're all about "good will".
I have this bridge in the Gobi desert for sale, just deposit the funds in my account and it's all yours.
The entire world sees this for what it was. China's fooling fewer people today than yesterday - a trend that will continue growing.
What are you talking about?! What tanks?! What people?!
[quote=Neuling;61999105]Canada is also happy because China released the two Canadian criminals as a goodwill gesture.[/quote
Canada is also happy to release whats her name from our jail. We arrested her at the Vancouver airport on the request of Trump as a part our extradition treaty with the US. This is a Trump holdover that USA has been letting us deal with alone. She was never extradited into the USA Why?
We have been getting trade flak over it and our relationship with China is in the toilet. We export a great deal of our crops from western Canada to them and China cancelled their orders.
Canada is also happy to release whats her name from our jail. We arrested her at the Vancouver airport on the request of Trump as a part our extradition treaty with the US. This is a Trump holdover that USA has been letting us deal with alone. She was never extradited into the USA Why?
We have been getting trade flak over it and our relationship with China is in the toilet. We export a great deal of our crops from western Canada to them and China cancelled their orders.
The Canadian authorities could simply have rejected the request to detain her. But they chose not to...
Law of treaties in international law
"Treaty means an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument, or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation."
This poster is not in the least surprised by your stance.
Law of treaties in international law
"Treaty means an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument, or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation."
This poster is not in the least surprised by your stance.
No idea what Tiananmen has got to do with that. If you were not so utterly ignorant, you would already know that it's nothing but a myth. You don't have to believe me, or any Chinese people, but why don't you believe Western journalists and photographers who admitted years later there never was any massacre?! You are inconsistent...
And no, there are specific rules for detaining someone, via international arrest warrants. Else every rogue state could have anyone detained.
No idea what Tiananmen has got to do with that. If you were not so utterly ignorant, you would already know that it's nothing but a myth. You don't have to believe me, or any Chinese people, but why don't you believe Western journalists and photographers who admitted years later there never was any massacre?! You are inconsistent...
And no, there are specific rules for detaining someone, via international arrest warrants. Else every rogue state could have anyone detained.
That I don't know. What I do know is that there is an extradition treaty between Canada and the USA.
In the link, you can read the whole thing if you wish, but the important bit is this.
"Article 8
The determination that extradition should or should not be granted shall be made in accordance with the law of the requested State and the person whose extradition is sought shall have the right to use all remedies and recourses provided by such law.
Article 9
The request for extradition shall be made through the diplomatic channel.
The request shall be accompanied by a description of the person sought, a statement of the facts of the case, the text of the laws of the requesting State describing the offense and prescribing the punishment for the offense, and a statement of the law relating to the limitation of the legal proceedings.
When the request relates to a person who has not yet been convicted, it must also be accompanied by a warrant of arrest issued by a judge or other judicial officer of the requesting State and by such evidence as, according to the laws of the requested State, would justify his arrest and committal for trial if the offense had been committed there, including evidence proving the person requested is the person to whom the warrant of arrest refers.
When the request relates to a person already convicted, it must be accompanied by the judgment of conviction and sentence passed against him in the territory of the requesting State, by a statement showing how much of the sentence has not been served, and by evidence proving that the person requested is the person to whom the sentence refers."
The USA issued a warrant on August 22, 2018 by the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York.
"Article 10
Extradition shall be granted only if the evidence be found sufficient, according to the laws of the place where the person sought shall be found, either to justify his committal for trial if the offense of which he is accused had been committed in its territory or to prove that he is the identical person convicted by the courts of the requesting State.
The documentary evidence in support of a request for extradition or copies of these documents shall be admitted in evidence in the examination of the request for extradition when, in the case of a request emanating from Canada, they are authenticated by an officer of the Department of Justice of Canada and are certified by the principal diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in Canada, or when, in the case of a request emanating from the United States, they are authenticated by an officer of the Department of State of the United States and are certified by the principal diplomatic or consular officer of Canada in the United States."
In simple terms, Canada had to give Meng a trial in which to make her case. Canada could NOT ignore the extradition request, per the treaty.
So your statement " The Canadian authorities could simply have rejected the request to detain her. But they chose not to..." is completely incorrect.
Extradition is the second step and indeed regulated between countries. Before the extradition, however, comes the detention, and that is regulated by international law as far as I know.
Canada should never have detained her in the first place.
Extradition is the second step and indeed regulated between countries. Before the extradition, however, comes the detention, and that is regulated by international law as far as I know.
Canada should never have detained her in the first place.
The U.S. arrest warrant was issued in August 2018. Yet knowing there was a warrant out for her arrest and that Canada and the U.S. had signed an extradition treaty, Meng Wanzhou CHOSE to enter Canada in December of that year. Stupid woman. What did she think would happen?
Oh yes, we all know how Communist China would show compassion and release two people it claimed were actual "criminals" in a "good will" gesture while having run over it's own citizens with tanks. They're all about "good will".
What are you talking about?! What tanks?! What people?!
Tienanmen Square? Those tanks?
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