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Old 12-17-2018, 01:12 PM
 
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Will Mexico pay for the maintenance of the wall for decades to come? Or do you expect the taxpayers to pick up that tab, too?

Whatever costs are ensued now and later it will be worth it to have protected borders once again, return to the rule of law and the end to the costs incurred by illegal aliens in so many ways. Too bad you and yours are too blind to see it.

 
Old 12-17-2018, 01:23 PM
 
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The Central American migrants are about as motivated as can be, motivated enough to trek thousands of miles. How many have found an alternate way in?

Good point! It will fall on deaf ears to the ones who don't want the wall though because they know it will prevent most of them from entering and they don't want that. That's why they keep crying about it and making up all kinds of lame arguments not to build it. It is fun to watch though!
 
Old 12-17-2018, 02:23 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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This. Period.
I don't even think we need a complete wall to cover every inch of terrain. But we need walls in some areas, increased electronic surveillance in others., increased boots on the ground in other areas. Anyone who opposes these common sense measures is indeed for open borders -- but they just won't say it. Being that the government borrows 2 billion dollars every day -- we could have this thing paid for in two weeks! And yes, liberals -- Mexico will reimburse us for the cost of the wall, they will either pay for it, or it will be taken from them in the form of excise taxes, tariffs, fines on their illegal citizens, etc.
You don't understand how tarrifs work. If the US government puts a 20% tariff on something coming in from Mexico, that means that they put that tax on the item & US consumers pay it. Mexicans don't pay it, we pay it.
 
Old 12-17-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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Well...a shutdown means that nearly 390,000 federal employees will not receive their final paycheck before Christmas. I hope Trump calls each one of them personally to apologize.

And bigger picture, it just goes to show how broken our country is. There are 326,000,000 people in the United States, and the federal government and all the politicians that work for it work for us.

And yet they, both democrats and republicans, can't compromise and try their hardest to meet in the middle on issues in order to keep the gov't open for us (the people).

The federal government needs to be revamped.

What a damn lie, I've shown you the governmental pay schedule....


Why do you continue to post lies when you know you've been proven wrong....


https://www.gsa.gov/cdnstatic/GSA%20...r%202019_0.pdf
 
Old 12-17-2018, 02:28 PM
 
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The wall is nothing but a giant distraction to divert attention away from Trump's morass of problems. Nobody in a position of power wants the wall or thinks it will accomplish anything except add to the U.S. deficit.
 
Old 12-17-2018, 02:50 PM
 
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The wall is nothing but a giant distraction to divert attention away from Trump's morass of problems. Nobody in a position of power wants the wall or thinks it will accomplish anything except add to the U.S. deficit.
I know it's been a while (2 years), but I thought Trump has been talking about building a wall since 2016 presidential campaign
 
Old 12-17-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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You don't understand how tarrifs work. If the US government puts a 20% tariff on something coming in from Mexico, that means that they put that tax on the item & US consumers pay it. Mexicans don't pay it, we pay it.

Well the real intent is that no one pays it - the 20% makes an alternate source for the product now cheaper and the American buys that so Mexico loses the sale.
 
Old 12-17-2018, 03:14 PM
 
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Well the real intent is that no one pays it - the 20% makes an alternate source for the product now cheaper and the American buys that so Mexico loses the sale.
That's...still in no way Mexico paying for the wall. It would still be coming from our pockets either way. Whether it's something that's $100 now from Mexico (when it was originally $80) or $80 from Canada, it's still not Mexico giving us money.
 
Old 12-17-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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The wall is nothing but a giant distraction to divert attention away from Trump's morass of problems. Nobody in a position of power wants the wall or thinks it will accomplish anything except add to the U.S. deficit.
Obviously you don't know about Schumer, Pelosi, Hillary and other Democrats (on video) saying we need the wall.
 
Old 12-17-2018, 03:20 PM
 
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Well the real intent is that no one pays it - the 20% makes an alternate source for the product now cheaper and the American buys that so Mexico loses the sale.
Yes. The poster that I posted that to thinks that a tariff on items from Mexico means that the Mexicans are paying it. It doesn't work that way. I remember the last trade war before countries decided to work out deals. I was a kid & remember the adults being very happy when it ended because prices would go down.
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