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Old 12-14-2018, 01:34 PM
 
Location: sumter
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I agree, Trump could have asked much more deeper questions than he did, called their bluff and exposed them for the anti-American traitors that they are. Same goes for other interviews I have seen on TV. I just wonder why the interviewers aren't more informed and don't ask the deeper and more important questions. So often I have seen them just let lies and spin go without addressing them. Here's an example. Yesterday a Fox commentator interviewed a half dozen liberal women on Border Security all at once. Their answers were so stupid and they looked like zombies or the Stepford Wives just repeating what they are fed by the media along with their constant stupid grinning and smirks on their faces. The interviewer missed a lot of points she could have made to makes the fools out of them that they were.
Why do you love to call people this who don't agree with you.

 
Old 12-14-2018, 01:43 PM
 
Location: sumter
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I can see an SNL skit coming on this one, with the focus on Mike Pence just sitting there like statue.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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The U.S. Census Bureau just released 2008 figures showing the national average total per-pupil funding from all revenue sources was $12,028. Although estimates of the number of school-age children of illegal immigrants don’t separate those attending public vs. private schools, it’s reasonable to assume that nearly all attend public schools since most come from lower-income families. Therefore, if one multiplies $12,028 by the roughly 3.7 million students with illegal-immigrant parents, then one gets a national total funding cost of $44.5 billion.


https://www.ajc.com/news/opinion/edu...dowmSvgX9C4TM/


The swelling population of illegal immigrants and their kids is costing American taxpayers $135 billion a year, the highest ever, driven by free medical care, education and a huge law enforcement bill, according to the the most authoritative report on the issue yet.

Broadly, the costs include $29 billion in medical care, $23 billion for law enforcement, $9 billion in welfare, $46 billion for education.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/r...h-25-000-in-ny
The figures come from FAIR, a nativist, anti-immigration group founded by John Tanton, a retired opthamologist known for his White Nationalist leanings, and with close ties to other white nationalists like Jared Taylor, Peter Brimelow, and the Pioneer Fund. Tanton also founded CIS, which is also a nativist organization similar to FAIR.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Once again and for the millionth time. Just because yall keep telling a lie doesn't make it true. Very very few people are calling for open borders and the vote in 2006 was not, repeat WAS NOT for a stupid wall. It was for a fence and better security. Plain and simple So when you talk about liars, please look in the mirror and at your dear leader.

I agree that Republican voters need to look at how they are played, lied to, and manipulated.

Call it a wall a fence or whatever. It's not a lie when we discuss border enforcement and make reference to walls or fences as a part of the discussion. You make a weak argument when you resort to playing with semantics. Awe, the "millionth time," really?
 
Old 12-14-2018, 02:28 PM
 
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Call it a wall a fence or whatever. It's not a lie when we discuss border enforcement and make reference to walls or fences as a part of the discussion. You make a weak argument when you resort to playing with semantics. Awe, the "millionth time," really?
But that's what we are telling you -- putting up a fence for 700 feet is not the same as building a wall for over a thousand feet and much higher.

It isn't -- it costs more. And the money Trump is asking for is not to ADD anything but that wall. And we all know -- construction is lucky if it ends up being 10 per cent over budget -- most times more than that.

It isn't a cost effective strategy.

It is more realistic to spend money on things like e-verify -- that have to be done anyways.

So yes it matters -- an 8 ft. wire fence is not the same as a 15 ft. concrete wall.

It just isn't.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 02:48 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Wapasha View Post
Just to be clear, you do not want our immigration laws to be enforced, you want open borders, you applaud illegal immigration and promote sanctuary cities, etc...?
Sorry you are so confused. Believing a liar will do that to a person.

Just to be clear, I do want Immigration laws enforced. I don't want open borders. I want Congress to pass laws that make hiring undocumented individuals a criminal offense with stiff penalties.

And when little girls show up at the border, hungry, thirsty, and asking for help I want them to be given water and food.

Anything unclear there?
 
Old 12-14-2018, 02:49 PM
 
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Anyone who believes a 30 ft wall will keep desperate people out is a fool.

Watch:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG4sWC1mSAM
 
Old 12-14-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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It's a five billion dollar boondoggle of no-bid contracts and cost overruns that won't solve the problem.

Budget deficit is growing by leaps and bounds.

When you're in a hole, quit digging.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by oceangaia View Post
The U.S. Census Bureau just released 2008 figures showing the national average total per-pupil funding from all revenue sources was $12,028. Although estimates of the number of school-age children of illegal immigrants don’t separate those attending public vs. private schools, it’s reasonable to assume that nearly all attend public schools since most come from lower-income families. Therefore, if one multiplies $12,028 by the roughly 3.7 million students with illegal-immigrant parents, then one gets a national total funding cost of $44.5 billion.

https://www.ajc.com/news/opinion/edu...dowmSvgX9C4TM/


The swelling population of illegal immigrants and their kids is costing American taxpayers $135 billion a year, the highest ever, driven by free medical care, education and a huge law enforcement bill, according to the the most authoritative report on the issue yet.

Broadly, the costs include $29 billion in medical care, $23 billion for law enforcement, $9 billion in welfare, $46 billion for education.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/r...h-25-000-in-ny
They just released 2008 figures? You should read your source before you post it, the date on that ajc.com piece is 2010. The Washington Examiner stuff is from CIS/FAIRUS - run by the RWNJ John Tanton and has been repeatedly discredited.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
No it wasn't! It was for 700 miles of double wall along the most porous areas of our border. How many times do I have to tell you and yours that?


https://www.investors.com/politics/e...mplementation/
Your own link says in the first sentence "double layer FENCING". Fencing is not the same thing as Trumps "big, beautiful, wall"
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