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Old 12-11-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TEPLimey View Post
Did he? Are you sure Obama didn't deport and remove record numbers of border crossers?

The intellectual dishonesty on this forum is staggering.
I should say.

Some continually post lies. These lies are refuted. The lies are posted again.

 
Old 12-11-2018, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by ATX Wahine View Post
A poll of 1075 adults does not constitute anything more than 1075 adults.
... This guy didn't take any statistics past middle school
 
Old 12-11-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ATX Wahine View Post
A poll of 1075 adults does not constitute anything more than 1075 adults.
The poll was 1075 souls who chose to answer the phone or perhaps do an online survey.

One thing is clear and even NPR says so in their article ....... Democrats & Indies simply don't care about Border Security or Sovereignty of the USA.

It is something that is not a particular interest or priority for Democrats and independents in the country, but what they all agree on is they don't want to see gridlock, and they don't want to see a government shutdown."

300,000 Federal Workers will be furloughed during their Christmas Vacation.
Hardly an Armageddon. Democrats want to shut it down ...... President Trump will probably oblige them, just as he did when the Democrats refused to give Green Cards to the DACA people.

Nancy says -- DACA is "off the table".
Democrats will not even consider it.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Kibby View Post
The poll was 1075 souls who chose to answer the phone or perhaps do an online survey.

One thing is clear and even NPR says so in their article ....... Democrats & Indies simply don't care about Border Security or Sovereignty of the USA.

It is something that is not a particular interest or priority for Democrats and independents in the country, but what they all agree on is they don't want to see gridlock, and they don't want to see a government shutdown."

300,000 Federal Workers will be furloughed during their Christmas Vacation.
Hardly an Armageddon. Democrats want to shut it down ...... President Trump will probably oblige them, just as he did when the Democrats refused to give Green Cards to the DACA people.

Nancy says -- DACA is "off the table".
Democrats will not even consider it.
Technically, its up to the President to sign or not sign the proposed budget. Its up to him to choose whether to shut it down when the final appropriations bill reaches his desk. He acknowledged as much when he said "I will shut down the government. I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down."
 
Old 12-11-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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Just HOW did he 'try'?

And we ALL know his promise wasn't to try and get Mexico to pay, it was that they would pay!
He attempted to get it funded but his own party, the only ones who could have funded it for him, said no.

But somehow it's all the Democrats' fault...
 
Old 12-11-2018, 10:38 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Originally Posted by ATX Wahine View Post
A poll of 1075 adults does not constitute anything more than 1075 adults.
There is more than 330,000,000 Americans. Does .ooo326 % of the population really mean anything???????????? Polls are stupid!
 
Old 12-11-2018, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by TEPLimey View Post
Did he? Are you sure Obama didn't deport and remove record numbers of border crossers?

The intellectual dishonesty on this forum is staggering.
Obama did NOT deport a record number


the Los Angeles Times wrote:
A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data. Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.High deportation figures are misleading
 
Old 12-11-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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No surprise it’s mostly along partisan lines, with only Republicans thinking he should hold firm on his $5 billion demand for a border wall, and Democrats and Independants believing it is not a high priority.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/11/67533...sible-shutdown

Border wall? A waste of money, it will be like spending money on the drug war! The "orange clown" said "Mexico will would pay for the wall."
 
Old 12-11-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by Natural510 View Post
No surprise it’s mostly along partisan lines, with only Republicans thinking he should hold firm on his $5 billion demand for a border wall, and Democrats and Independants believing it is not a high priority.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/11/67533...sible-shutdown


Most Americans don't know that a "government shutdown" doesn't actually shut down government.

But keep parroting the sky is falling narrative.....
 
Old 12-11-2018, 10:47 AM
 
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Most Americans don't know that a "government shutdown" doesn't actually shut down government.

But keep parroting the sky is falling narrative.....
I think by now folks get what a government shut down is -- every time one is threatened we get explanations of what is or isn't available and who is or isn't impacted.
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