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Old 12-12-2018, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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People are willing to experience some discomfort when others have real challenges - so they're okay with service animals. But comfort of the majority shouldn't take second place to those who are inconsiderate and selfish. People who insist they need emotional support animals are as self-centered as people who wear perfume / cologne when they're going to be in close quarters with others or on top of other people for more than a few minutes.

You sound like a sane, considerate pet owner. Thank you!
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:00 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Why should animals be viewed as medical/psychological necessities?
I'm assuming you can reference cases where people have died from not having their pet goat sitting next to them in public venues or at least research proving animals are medically necessary for what disorder exactly?
That poster was being sarcastic, but if you're asking in general (not just emotional support animals), there are many examples even outside the obvious seeing-eye dogs - like diabetic alert, seizure alert, and mobility dogs. While I don't claim my dog to be a service or ESA animal, he has on more than one occasion saved me from a nasty fall.
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:30 PM
 
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Serious question: As a charter airline, are you allowed to deny SERVICE animals? I mean 100% legitimate ones, like guide dogs for the blind.
Not an airline. People can charter my plane but subject to my approval. If it doesn’t meet my approval, oops, plane broke, down for maintenance. Prove otherwise. Or I decide I am going somewhere and plane not available. Prove otherwise.
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Old 12-13-2018, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Not an airline. People can charter my plane but subject to my approval. If it doesn’t meet my approval, oops, plane broke, down for maintenance. Prove otherwise. Or I decide I am going somewhere and plane not available. Prove otherwise.
That's not what she asked you. If someone who is totally blind and relies on a guide dog wants to charter your plane, why would you turn them down? A trained service dog is a lot different than a fake ESA.
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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That poster was being sarcastic, but if you're asking in general (not just emotional support animals), there are many examples even outside the obvious seeing-eye dogs - like diabetic alert, seizure alert, and mobility dogs. While I don't claim my dog to be a service or ESA animal, he has on more than one occasion saved me from a nasty fall.
Those are service animals.
What actual assistance does say a peacock provide?
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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That's not what she asked you. If someone who is totally blind and relies on a guide dog wants to charter your plane, why would you turn them down? A trained service dog is a lot different than a fake ESA.
What did I say? My plane is not an airline. It can be available for charter subject to my approval. No pets, no exceptions.
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Those are service animals.
What actual assistance does say a peacock provide?
I could be wrong, but my guess would be attention.
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I've flown with my animals four times for relocation. All my beloved dogs flew in the cargo area. My cats flew with me under the seat in an airline approved carrier for full fare, not as service animals. The cost was high to fly all my animals, but they were not "service animals". People who take advantage of airline service animals policy are inconsiderate of other passengers.
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Old 12-13-2018, 03:18 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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Can you imagine a dog or cat taking a dump on a plane that is in the air on long flights.
I would never ever put my pet on a plane.
Cat urine is the worst smell and extremely difficult to clean up!!!!
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:01 PM
 
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Why all the over-the-top vileness............do people actually HATE the living-tools that help people get out and about to live their lives? Do you hate emotional-comfort-KITTEHS, do you hate seeing-eye-dogs, do you hate seizure-alerting-miniature-horses, do you hate psychological-support-goats, do you hate...........the list could go on and on, why not see these living-tools for the necessity they are!?!?!?!?

Are we going to rip-away emotional-comfort-animals, and similar, just to spite people who would be emotionally and physically devastated without them????
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