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Old 12-12-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Obviously there's a great deal of disdain for "emotional support animals" on flights.

Is there equal disdain for ESAs out in the public, in general?

I take my dog (an adorable, elderly and well-behaved Sheltie) with me to church. Not only is she absolutely silent, but it's a comfort to both her and me to be together. Incredibly, a lone soul at the church complained about "that woman who sits in the back with a dog." And yet several congregants told me, "I didn't even know you had a dog with you until I saw you walk out the door!"

BTW, it requires a doctor's note (in Virginia) to have a dog become an ESA.
I think the disdain, regardless of location, is the result of people who have abused the system. I, for one, love animals, and enjoy seeing quiet, well-behaved ones in almost any setting. The problem is, many of these alleged "ESAs" are not well-behaved or silent. Some aren't even potty trained. It's not the fault of the animals, but it is the fault of selfish owners who don't care who they inconvenience, or how their actions reflect on people who are not abusing right to have a service animal.

To put it another way, I would be fine with you and your dog visiting my church. I would be less thrilled with a dog that barked incessantly, peed everywhere, or tried to bite the priest. I wouldn't be crazy about a visit from an emotional support peacock, either.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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This is a capitalist opportunity here. Why doesn't an airline come out that caters to these people?
The Snowflake Zoo Express

Imagine a plane loaded with animals. Gross. You know the people with these animals want to be the special exceptions on the plane, one of a few. Just like people with crying babies who don't want to fly with a bunch of other crying babies on the plane.
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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If that equipment is so vital to their being able to fly, they should be willing to pay for that animal, right? Just like folks who travel with pets in carriers that stow under the seat.

I can guarantee that once emotional support animals get charged, their owners will manage to conquer their fear and terror while flying.

Emotional-comfort-animals should be viewed as a medical/psychological necessity, some people may
die without them, some people will suffer horrible discomfort.

Why all the vile and bile directed towards ECAs......whether is be a goat, mini-pony or eagle?????
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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Emotional-comfort-animals should be viewed as a medical/psychological necessity, some people may
die without them, some people will suffer horrible discomfort.

Why all the vile and bile directed towards ECAs......whether is be a goat, mini-pony or eagle?????
Thank you, Mr. Poe.
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:54 AM
 
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Wal mart is going to ban animals , too. The only animals allowed in the stores will be service animals. Therapy animals will not be allowed .
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Old 12-12-2018, 11:00 AM
 
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Wal mart is going to ban animals , too. The only animals allowed in the stores will be service animals. Therapy animals will not be allowed .
It's disgusting to see animals in grocery stores and restaurants. I can overlook it for service animals.
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Old 12-12-2018, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Emotional-comfort-animals should be viewed as a medical/psychological necessity, some people may
die without them, some people will suffer horrible discomfort.

Why all the vile and bile directed towards ECAs......whether is be a goat, mini-pony or eagle?????

That's what service dogs are for.
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Old 12-12-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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Emotional-comfort-animals should be viewed as a medical/psychological necessity, some people may
die without them, some people will suffer horrible discomfort.

Why all the vile and bile directed towards ECAs......whether is be a goat, mini-pony or eagle?????
Why should animals be viewed as medical/psychological necessities?
I'm assuming you can reference cases where people have died from not having their pet goat sitting next to them in public venues or at least research proving animals are medically necessary for what disorder exactly?
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Old 12-12-2018, 11:18 AM
 
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I think a lot of these people are claiming "support animal" to avoid paying fees. I've been moved cross country/overseas to American territories a few times and flew on commercial airlines with my pets as part of the move.



Overseas all had to be in cargo and I think they were about $300-$400 each. Cross country the cat (because he was small) could fly in cabin, under the seat, in a cat carrier. I had one that looked like a common bag. Most people didn't even know there was a cat in it. That cost me $50-$100 I think.



This was all over 20 years ago and I am sure the prices are much higher now. Anyway, I think a lot of people don't need support, they are just moving or spending a lot of time away and are trying to avoid paying the airline (or a kennel) by saying "service animal" and taking a pet with them.
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Old 12-12-2018, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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It's disgusting to see animals in grocery stores and restaurants. I can overlook it for service animals.
And here's a woman whining that Walmart won't let her emotional support dogs (plural) sit in the carts anymore. Jesus, stay home if you can't cope.

https://walmart.pissedconsumer.com/n...211215862.html

By the way, the comments are priceless....lol.
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