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For example, rather than a flat range fine for drunk driving, that range could be the minimum (for those who make no/little income) while the standard formula would be say, the equivalent of 1/12 of their annual income accrued the previous tax year, including capital gains income. No deductions or anything else that would complicate things or offer loopholes.
That way, everyone would feel the heat if they drive drunk, regardless of how much money they had.
In turn, eliminate taxes on things like liquor. No reason to punish law abiding citizens.
Your thoughts?
NO!
Don't do the crime, if you cannot afford the time.
Not defending it. It's not a crime though. A crime requires a victim.
I know there are lots of things we disagree about, but this is the first time you have said something that really, honestly left me totally gobsmacked.
I know there are lots of things we disagree about, but this is the first time you have said something that really, honestly left me totally gobsmacked.
Drunk driving in itself does not create a victim. No victim = no crime. Not a violation of the NAP.
However...
Your actions, whether intentional or not, that cause death or destruction of property are the two biggest NAP violations there are.
Vehicular homicide (manslaughter is more common) sentencing is pretty weak. Max is a a relatively small fine and 15 years in the joint. Most cases, assuming no major priors, get you 3-10 years (and we're overcrowded due to draconian drug laws so early release on parole is even more common). Once out you're free to move about the cabin (of life).
Did you know most folks get their licenses back after their time is up? Some immediately whiles others use a "hardship" clause to get it back in 5 years. Google stories of people killing someone, getting out, and doing it again.
So, that's what the State thinks about your property and life (one in the same to us anarchists). Not very much if you ask me.
Now let's take a look at what happens to someone who drives drunk and kills someone in my world...
You're uninsurable for the rest of your life. Nobody is going to take on your liability. Even if a company said ok your premiums would be astronomical to the point that hardly anyone could afford them. You'll never be able to form a contract or join an organization again for the rest of your life. Basically banished from society. Good luck securing a job, a haircut, or a renting/buying a home. It ain't happening. Like I said: banished.
As you can see I'm pretty confident that my way shows true respect to life and property. As always, the statist way is arbitrary and does nothing to punish bad people.
I agree emphatically. Jail time and community service are both examples of the criminal having his time confiscated.
With fines, suddenly the guy on minimum wage has to work for a week as punishment, and the hedge fund manager has settled his account in an hour. Philosophically, I can't see that being fair.
Too bad.
That's how it works.
Equality for all criminals no matter how hard life will be for them after committing a crime.
In principle it's a nice idea but in practice it would be too intrusive to enforce. Imagine getting a ticket and then needing to share your tax returns.
I think there should be a waiver for lower income folks, who if they prove their income is below a certain threshold, pay a reduced fine and get community service.
I also think for repeat offenders, they should just lose their license - no questions asked. So if the rich are content to constantly and flagrantly break the law because the fines are small, they will eventually be stopped that way.
Even for you hard-core libertarian types, you must realize that the roads are public property and governed by public rules. If you don't want to follow those rules, don't drive. If you drive and break the rules, you can consider it a form of trespassing.
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