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Old 12-12-2018, 08:42 PM
 
Location: London
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For example, rather than a flat range fine for drunk driving, that range could be the minimum (for those who make no/little income) while the standard formula would be say, the equivalent of 1/12 of their annual income accrued the previous tax year, including capital gains income. No deductions or anything else that would complicate things or offer loopholes.

That way, everyone would feel the heat if they drive drunk, regardless of how much money they had.

In turn, eliminate taxes on things like liquor. No reason to punish law abiding citizens.

Your thoughts?
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:45 PM
 
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I cannot see how this could possibly be Constitutional.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:50 PM
 
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How about the opposite. How about the people that pay the most taxes get the lowest penalties.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:54 PM
 
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Seems fair. And before anyone accuses me of looking out for myself, I'd be paying more tahn most, thankyouverymuch.

Paying a fine means that for a while, you'll be working for the state and not yourself. I have no problem with that amount of work being measured in hours, rather than dollars.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:58 PM
 
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Seems fair.

I'm sure you would agree that increased jail time based on higher income would not be fair, fines are another form of punishment so I'm not sure how one can be fair and the other not.



Besides the fact as I already mentioned I doubt such a policy would be Constitutional because it most certainly would not be equal application of the law.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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I'm sure you would agree that increased jail time based on higher income would not be fair...
I agree emphatically. Jail time and community service are both examples of the criminal having his time confiscated.

With fines, suddenly the guy on minimum wage has to work for a week as punishment, and the hedge fund manager has settled his account in an hour. Philosophically, I can't see that being fair.
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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"Drunk driving" isn't even a crime.
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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"Drunk driving" isn't even a crime.
Good luck making that argument with someone who has had a loved one killed or maimed for life as a result of it.
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Good luck making that argument with someone who has had a loved one killed or maimed for life as a result of it.
That's not what I said.
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:51 PM
 
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That's not what I said.
Not literally, but when you say it is not a crime, you appear to be defending it.
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