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Old 12-12-2018, 11:10 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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How much money Obama added to the DEBT?
Democrats are going to help with that by pushing medicare for all. That will add 30 trillion dollars to the debt in 10 years and raise taxes for all.
He added a lot. It was a DEEP recession, revenues were down and outlays were high - as outlays ALWAYS are during a recession. Lots of folks on unemployment, more demand for food stamps and other services. That's the way it goes in a recession.

What's TRUMP'S excuse? The economy is supposedly booming, yet outlays are increasing and the deficit is SOARING. From the look of things we're on track to match or exceed the Obama deficit numbers - and that's if their ISN'T a recession. If there IS, then those extra outlays for things like unemployment and foodstamps will ADD to that project Obama-like deficit and drive it wayyyyyyy past that.

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Old 12-12-2018, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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What's TRUMP'S excuse? The economy is supposedly booming, yet outlays are increasing and the deficit is SOARING. From the look of things we're on track to match or exceed the Obama deficit numbers - and that's if their ISN'T a recession. If there IS, then those extra outlays for things like unemployment and foodstamps will ADD to that project Obama-like deficit and drive it wayyyyyyy past that.
Exactly. As JKF said decades ago, "The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining."
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Old 12-12-2018, 11:36 PM
 
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The tax cuts were an unexpected windfall for me. I am far from rich.
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:31 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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The tax cuts were an unexpected windfall for me. I am far from rich.
Yep and that is all you cared about was yourself. It made it easy and convenient for you to forget that ii was projected to add a trillion plus to the debt. Nope, did n't matter to those who claim they are fiscal conservatives as long as their pockets were lined with a little more extra cash. What a coincidence, you sound exactly like the leaders you elect.

The OP would have enjoyed fellow posters like yourself bragging on how much they saved in taxes with the Trump cuts. Yep, posters were bragging of saving anywhere from $1000 and the highest I read was $7000 but when you look at the over all big picture it is chump change. Just like the leaders that get their palms greased by lobbyist yours was greased by the leaders.

Yep, with their tax cuts ideology they will have people like you voting {R} for the next hundred years.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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And yet-after the tax cuts-we have RECORD REVENUES! Tax cuts worked as intended, stimulating the economy, leaving more money in the pockets of working people, brought jobs back from overseas manufacturers. And put more money in government coffers than at any time in the past.

We don't have a revenue problem-we have a spending problem. Time for across-the-board spending cuts.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:16 AM
 
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Why do people think the gov having more of their money is a good thing?
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:51 AM
 
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Maybe we need those Billions of dollars back from Iran that Obama sent to our enemies. Not to mention all the expensive vacations Obumer and Big Mike was continually on.
It was Iran’s own money that was held in escrow when the Shah was overthrown.

Repeating the same damned lie over and over doesn’t change the facts.
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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We needed a corporate tax overhaul. We did not need cuts to individuals, particularly those that favored investment income over labor.
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:04 AM
 
Location: IL
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Lol, Moody's...don't they have another financial crisis to cause? Its been a while.
i dont know if they caused it but they were certainly complicit.
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:04 AM
 
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I would rather cut taxes an cut the government in half. Those workers are better off in the private sector producing tax revenue instead of taking it.
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