CDC: US gun deaths hit 40-year high in 2017 (Obama, Chicago, million)

[Loveshiscountry]

Originally Posted by my54ford

So whats the solution?????

Ignore 1 data point and look at the trend. Find out the reasons and causes.

from 2015

2015 13286 non suicide
1999 12000 non suicide

From 1999 to 2015 the population grew ~17%
Those dying by non suicide firearms increased 11%

2015 population 321,039,840
1999 population 275,854,000

45,185,850/275,854,000
A 16.4% increase

1286/12000
a 10.7% increase

[lionking]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

There are plenty of other ways to commit suicide but guns are the most effective. Those who survive a first attempt have a low recidivism rate.

oh whatever, because on the flip side less gun access means less access to defend yourself. Sure you can defend yourself by some other means but it also means other ways will be less effective also.

But I already know what anti gun people will say to that , " but ...but statistics say chances are you won't be in a situation to have to defend yourself anyway".


Because you know, we should all our life's decisions based on statistics made by someone else.

[Loveshiscountry]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Lets discuss it.

37K died in auto accidents (texting or no texting)
40K died from a gunshot wounds

Where did you hear that 400 000 died on texting related crashes?

Someone must have texted that to him.

[Jacobo1]

Oh boy a whole 40,000 people. Half are suicides (good riddance) and a bunch are ghetto shootings (good riddance). I'm more worried about bad lettuce but don't let me take away your boogeyman.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

I would say that its less access to guns but the NRA will probably say its less suicidal people.

define less access....

[Floorist]

Originally Posted by max210

Remove suicides, law enforcement. What percentage are gang activity/drug related/mental illness? Where is this subset occuring? I don't mean by state either, what part of what cities? How many are accidents?

Otherwise OP is hyperbolic fear mongering.

Well, blacks are 13.8 % of the population and commit 50% of the murders.

[Robert_J]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

I would say that its less access to guns but the NRA will probably say its less suicidal people.

I'm pro-choice. Their body so they can do whatever they want with it.

[No_Recess]

I'm mad as hell.

Who do we tax, what do we regulate, and who/what is to blame?

[ambient]

Originally Posted by my54ford

So whats the solution?????

The solution, I've been told, is to put a loaded gun into each functioning hand of anyone with a pulse, whether man, woman, old, young, child, infant, etc; then we will reach the promised land of harmony envisioned by the Founding Fathers.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Over half of them suicides and far less than deaths from medical malpractice

So no problem then, I guess. It’s not like the US is seeing an unprecedented life expectancy drop... oh wait...