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I voted for each option except the last. I was hesitant to vote on the 2nd option; he's done some great things. Not alot, but some. He needs to be more serious on illegal immigration (TBF that meeting on Tuesday showed me he kinda is), and he also needs his feet held to the fire in regards to indicting Hillary and any major player involved(Comey, Obama, IDC).
Bottom line is when the wall gets constructed(not the ballard crap from the omnibus) and if somebody major gets indicted from the Clinton Crime Foundation, he's got my vote for 2020. Anybody the dems put out there will be trash as their party is trash. While not perfect Trump so far has been the best prez in my young life(born in 83, didn't know about Reagan as a little kid but knew about H-Dubuya).
Option 1 (From the poll above): The Democrats are not an option. Whatever problems there are with Trump, the problems with the Democrat left and their agenda are far worse.
To expand on this a little further:
The Democrat left PC movement consists of an ideological component and a tactical component. The ideological core is obviously a 21st century version of collectivist socialism (a blend of Marxism and fascism) of the sort which motivated the greatest campaigns of horror and death during the last century that our species has ever witnessed - by far. Apparently there is a large segment of our society that would like to revisit those terrible times. If they are allowed to have their way, we will.
The tactical portion is a media-led mob of social bullies whose primary tool is social terrorism. We saw this in Indiana at Memories Pizza, when homo-fascists conspired together across state line to bully, harass, intimidate and terrorize the owners of a small pizza restaurant, because a PC leftist journalist, who was looking for someone to harass, bully and terrorize, asked the owner if they would cater a same sex wedding, and the Christian owner said no. These PC bullies threatened to kill them and burn down their store. They trashed the store's reviews online, and the owners were forced to flee the city.
We saw the Democrat left BLM group in Ferguson, Missouri instigate a campaign of looting and lawlessness that sent a police officer into hiding in fear for his life because he dared to defend himself against a black crime suspect who tried to attack him. Racist leftist PC bullies nationwide formed what was effectively a social lynch mob against police nationwide and the arresting officer in particular, based on a flagrantly dishonest version of the events that happened here. This fabricated version of events was broadly regarded as "Politically correct" by the racist left, which meant in their eyes that the "debate was over". But it wasn't over.
Then there is the bullying and terrorism of people in academia and the sciences, who if they dare to challenge "Politically correct" orthodoxy with regards climate science and certain other topics, you will be harassed out of your job and will almost certainly lose your career.
Also, let's not forget the militant wing of the Democrat left's PC movement, ANTIFA,who dresses up in fascists thug costumes with facemasks and the whole fascist kit. For people who want to attend meetings with non-PC speakers, they need to be prepared to run the assault gauntlet by this group. Leftist run administrations such as the on at UC Berkeley has refused to provide effective security, and have been, in effect, complicit in enabling the violent activities of these politically motivated terrorist bullies.
One last example, but there are certainly many more. We now see the Democrat left PC feminists getting in on the social bullying with the harassment of innocent men like Morgan Freemen, for what is basically just awkward flirting. In what has become increasingly common, these intolerant, graceless uncivil and hateful people have set out to humiliate and destroy this man because of their retroactive invention of a hyper-rigid code of courting conduct that Queen Victoria and the most prim adherents of that age would have been appalled by. The willingness of this group to unilaterally ruin anyone who does not or has not complied with their recently contrived list of demands under the guise of "Political correctness," is truly terrifying to many men. Which should not come as a surprise, as these are tactically acts of social terrorism.
The common themes of bullying, harassment and social terrorism are at the center of why people have such big problems with the Democrat left's "Political correctness" movement. Clearly, this nonsense pedaled by some that the Democrat left's PC movement is all about politeness is one of the most flagrant falsehoods ever posted in this forum. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is anything but.
I don't know if I qualify as a "Trump supporter", although I did vote for him so I guess that counts.
I actually checked all the boxes except for the last one. Pretty good options. The incessant ranting of the "resistance" has made me even happier with my vote.
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Originally Posted by Speleothem
There was no choice for "All of the above."
So I checked all the boxes.
I checked them all except for the last one too even though I am very upset about him threatening to shut down the government. That's my life line!
Plain old bigotry. I saw it for years in Arizona with Arpaio. Use bigotry and racism to motivate your base and you can withstand just about any incompetency while in office.
Plain old bigotry. I saw it for years in Arizona with Arpaio. Use bigotry and racism to motivate your base and you can withstand just about any incompetency while in office.
This is an illustration of option #6 in action.
Which raises a question. How is it that supporters of the Democrat left do not realize that this sort of vitriolic hatefulness and name calling makes people less likely to support them and more likely to want to align themselves with those political forces that are arrayed in opposition to them?
The breathtaking ignorance about basic human psychology and human behavior that this continued behavior pattern demonstrates is really quite astounding. How is it that the people who continue to act out in this way do not understand that this behavior is entirely counterproductive?
Unless it is their goal to divide everyone up and pit Americans off against each other, with the objective of causing as much divisiveness, bitterness, hostility, incivility and strife as they can, with the end purpose of tearing our society completely apart?
Silly me. I thought for a person to be a criminal, there needed to be a conviction in a court of law. And lacking that, at least an indictment, along with some solid evidence.
Your post above illustrates the reason for this thread brilliantly. People continue to support Trump because the alternative would be to support people who think and act like you. That is all you really need to know.
How many people would he have to shoot on 5th Avenue in order you to leave him? When Trump said Mexico would buy us a wall to hide behind and he would ban Muslims, millions of drooling racists and Islamaphobes jumped into his camp and wanted to have his baby. The world`s laughing at him and his groupies. It`s like watching Jonestown over and over.
Plain old bigotry. I saw it for years in Arizona with Arpaio. Use bigotry and racism to motivate your base and you can withstand just about any incompetency while in office.
IMO Arpaio was the best thing that happened to the Az prison system. How's it working out now?
How many people would he have to shoot on 5th Avenue in order you to leave him? When Trump said Mexico would buy us a wall to hide behind and he would ban Muslims, millions of drooling racists and Islamaphobes jumped into his camp and wanted to have his baby. The world`s laughing at him and his groupies. It`s like watching Jonestown over and over.
What an exaggeration! Do you have no shame at all? Trump did not ban Muslims he banned those from known terrorist countries if they happened to be of the Muslim faith, oh well. It's about terrorism not religion. None of us are opposed to peaceful Muslims in our country.
Who was a drooling racist based on the above? Gee, I never heard of anyone wanting to have his baby over this. Just more exaggerations on your part?
Really? So you speak for the whole world now? How about all those liberal groupies in this forum alone?
Plain old bigotry. I saw it for years in Arizona with Arpaio. Use bigotry and racism to motivate your base and you can withstand just about any incompetency while in office.
Sure. Who voted him out. Unlike a drunken idiot like Raul Grijalva, who will get elected every year despite passing out drunk when in a debate with his rival, and showing up to work drunk. Or hailing Obama as deserving the worlds greatest peace prize prior to destroying or invading 3 Muslim countries, Libya, Syria, and Yemen.
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I checked them all except for the last one too even though I am very upset about him threatening to shut down the government. That's my life line!
