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Old 12-15-2018, 08:41 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Originally Posted by CanalsLB View Post
It seems that the immigrant caravan was only a media circus until the midterm elections. What happened?
Another example of the media exploiting something for their own purposes (and an example of their anti-Trump agenda)
The spectacle all blew up when those racist people of Tijuana turned the invaders back.
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Old 12-15-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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tRump exploited the immigrant caravan and as soon as mid-terms were done, he shut up about it.

This crap again?
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Old 12-15-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It seems that the immigrant caravan was only a media circus until the midterm elections. What happened?
Another example of the media exploiting something for their own purposes (and an example of their anti-Trump agenda)
Yep. FOX (and Trump) stopped talking about it the day after the election. It was all fear mongering to rile up the gullible Republicans.

Other outlets still talk about it , like the story about the dead 7 yr old girl.
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Old 12-15-2018, 10:08 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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It seems that the immigrant caravan was only a media circus until the midterm elections. What happened?
Another example of the media exploiting something for their own purposes (and an example of their anti-Trump agenda)
Mid-terms are over. Trump and Fox thought non-stop focus on the 'caravan' would help Republicans in the mid terms. It didn't.

Hence, they have stopped yammering about it non-stop.
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Old 12-15-2018, 10:38 AM
 
Location: NC
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Mid-terms are over. Trump and Fox thought non-stop focus on the 'caravan' would help Republicans in the mid terms. It didn't.

Hence, they have stopped yammering about it non-stop.

You mean Acosta stopped yammering about it after Trump made him look stupid and he touched that intern?
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Old 12-15-2018, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Once the election was over, the "useful idiots" in the caravan no longer had a purpose. The left-wing groups funding them dropped them.
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Old 12-15-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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Once the election was over, the "useful idiots" in the caravan no longer had a purpose. The left-wing groups funding them dropped them.



And the small detail that the Mayor of TJ said he was going to start arresting the leftist organizers from the USA. They got the hell out of there.
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Old 12-15-2018, 12:28 PM
 
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Mid-terms are over. Trump and Fox thought non-stop focus on the 'caravan' would help Republicans in the mid terms. It didn't.

Hence, they have stopped yammering about it non-stop.

Utter nonsense that was never true! Since all the caravan is doing is sitting in Tijuana what's there to report or focus on? It was reported a couple of weeks ago the BP had to use tear gas on those who tried to crash our border so WTH are you talking about?
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Old 12-15-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Utter nonsense that was never true! Since all the caravan is doing is sitting in Tijuana what's there to report or focus on? It was reported a couple of weeks ago the BP had to use tear gas on those who tried to crash our border so WTH are you talking about?
Cannot rep you again but exactly. Also they have been in the news, one group of illegals demanded our government to give them $50,000 within 72 hours to return home. In addition to that I read many are sneaking in at other places along our border. Some still waiting in Mexico
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Old 12-15-2018, 02:38 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Trump utilized through the media the caravan in order to grow his base. We only knew about the Caravan (dog bites man it isn't news, man bites dog that's news) because of Trump. In the end it had the opposite effect. Because he went to the extreme with it and shot himself in the foot.
Trump hurts Trump ... propaganda did not do that.
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But regardless, my point still stands. Democracy is controlled by propaganda. Always has been, always will be. And no sane person should believe otherwise.

The argument of course is that democracy needs a "free press". Which is an admission that if the government, or some other faction, was in complete control of the press, they would have complete control of the people.
So you do not believe that a person with a set of morals and ethics could look at a person and/or a situation and with a rational mind of their own, say, I agree or I do not agree. (personality test for a job)

When I was growing up my parents, when I did something; behaved in a way that they thought was not of good moral conduct, would say to me "you were influenced by so-and-so." (trust I have thought on this long time now) Basically what they were saying ... "you're too stupid to act like that on your own, some one is influencing you." Whether or not that is what they were telling me or not, that is how I took it.

I on the other hand, I believe that people, are capable through no influence of any kind from any outside source, can look at a person and/or a situation and say ... I agree or I do not agree. Maybe I have too much faith in people. I have been told that before.

So maybe you're right ... may be we are not in complete control of our mental facilities in which to determine right from wrong, based on our own internal set of morals. If that is the case, then we do not control our own destinies in this life. The media will influence the outcome ...
Why Border Enforcement Backfired
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Human social cognition characteristically operates to classify people and groups on the basis of their perceived warmth and competence (Fiske et al. 2002; Fiske 2003). Ingroup members and others like them are viewed as both warm (approachable and well-intended) and competent (capable and effective), triggering positive emotions such as pride and esteem. Outgroups fall into three categories associated with different combinations of warmth and competence. Envied outgroups are perceived as competent but not warm (e.g. the rich and certain middleman minorities); pitied outgroups are seen as warm but incompetent (e.g. the elderly, the disabled); and despised outgroups are viewed as neither warm nor competent and are viewed with disdain and disgust (e.g. drug dealers, the homeless).

The location of any particular group in the social space defined by warmth and competence is not given but manufactured through psychological and social mechanisms. Psychologically, a group’s location is determined through cognitive processes of framing (Kahneman and Tversky 2000) and socially through mechanisms of boundary definition and reification (Lamont and Molnar 2002; Wimmer 2008). The rise of illegal migration created a golden opportunity for self-interested actors to engage in the systematic framing of illegal migrants as criminals, portraying them as neither warm nor competent and thus distinguished from mainstream Americans by a well-defined social boundary. The success of their efforts is indicated by research showing that illegal migrants, Mexicans, and Latinos general have now come to occupy the low-warmth/low-competence quadrant of disgust in American social cognition (Lee and Fiske 2006). Groups in this location are subject to systematic dehumanization and viewed with contempt and fear (Harris and Fiske 2006).
Crack ads and propaganda for the win.

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