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View Poll Results: Do people assume you are or are not a Trump supporter?
Trump supporter: People correctly assume I am 10 13.51%
Trump supporter: People wrongly assume I am not 7 9.46%
Anti-Trump: People correctly assume I am 22 29.73%
Anti-Trump: People wrongly assume I am not 2 2.70%
People make no assumptions about me 33 44.59%
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-14-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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I travel internationally a lot, and I’ve found that 100% of the time, people assume (correctly, of course) that I am not a Trump supporter. When others find out I am American, they usually give me some sort of Trump-disparaging comment...which I usually agree with. This happens frequently. Even locally, people usually feel comfortable enough around me to say things that indicate they are anti-Trump. Frankly, I appreciate whatever they see in me. It does make me wonder, though...

I’m a black woman, so maybe that’s why they make this assumption (again, correctly).

My query is this: I’m wondering if such assumptions happen to others. If so, what is it about you that makes people feel comfortable enough to make such assumptions (that you are pro-Trump or anti-Trump)?

I mean, if they’re wrong, that would create an awkward situation.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:02 PM
 
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I travel internationally a lot, and I’ve found that 100% of the time, people assume (correctly, of course) that I am not a Trump supporter. When others find out I am American, they usually give me some sort of Trump-disparaging comment...which I usually agree with. This happens frequently. Even locally, people usually feel comfortable enough around me to say things that indicate they are anti-Trump. Frankly, I appreciate whatever they see in me. It does make me wonder, though...

I’m a black woman, so maybe that’s why they make this assumption (again, correctly).

My query is this: I’m wondering if such assumptions happen to others. If so, what is it about you that makes people feel comfortable enough to make such assumptions (that you are pro-Trump or anti-Trump)?

I mean, if they’re wrong, that would create an awkward situation.
My experience mirrors yours exactly.

I travel internationally a lot as well, and sometimes, locals are cautious and first ask my opinions on Trump (before making any presumptions). When I answer, they absolutely feel free to go IN, ranging from sympathy, insults against his supporters and their stupidity, to sheer disgust. To this day, I haven’t met a single foreigner overseas who likes or respects the guy. Not one.

Interestingly, however, was a discussion at work with an older, affluent, liberal white coworker, who—to my surprise—confessed she always assumed I voted for Trump (I never remotely gave her any indication either way, or so I thought). When pressed for answers for why she assumed such ridiculousness, it basically boiled down to some pure silliness: me reminding her of Carlton Banks from The Fresh Prince of Bel Air and the way I “sounded” as well as the music I like. I just seemed like a conservative republican black guy to her.

I’m still dismayed, but forgave her for her ignorance and that bizarre insult.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:10 PM
 
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My experience mirrors yours exactly.

I travel internationally a lot as well, and sometimes, locals are cautious and first ask my opinions on Trump (before making any presumptions). When I answer, they absolutely go IN, ranging from sympathy, insults against his supporters and their stupidity, to sheer disgust.

Interestingly, however, was a discussion at work with an older, affluent, liberal white coworker, who—to my surprise—confessed she always assumed I voted for Trump (I never remotely gave her any indication either way, or so I thought). When pressed for answers for why she assumed such ridiculousness, it basically boiled down to some pure silliness: me reminding her of Carlton Banks from The Fresh Prince of Bel Air and the way I “sounded” as well as the music I like. I just seemed like a conservative republican black guy to her.

I’m still dismayed, but forgave her for her ignorance and that bizarre insult.
Oh, wow!! How insanely ignorant! Never have I been thought to be a Trump supporter, and I am grateful.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

I’m curious if these assumptions (one way or the other) happen frequently to non-blacks.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:24 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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I am a white woman and IRL people don't generally make assumptions about me either way. I don't wear my politics on my sleeve, but I'm not shy about bringing up my concerns about climate change which is all too real. I have one acquaintance who flips out over any mention of this, so I don't bring it up around him anymore - I like to get along with my neighbors. Other than that, I'm very low key and mostly run under the radar.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Who talks politics with strangers?

I don't even initiate conversation with people. Why would I?
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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I am against Trump, been against Trump from day one. I also try not to talk about politics in public. However, I'm learning that some people might assume that I don't support Trump. Sometimes I have run into individuals who try to convince me to vote Republican without really knowing who I support.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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I'm not sure what people assume about me, but I suspect strangers may assume I am a Trump supporter, mostly because this is a very conservative town. I know I am always pleasantly surprised when I learn that a new acquaintance is also a liberal. It's kind of like finding someone from one's hometown in a strange place. I recall an incident shortly after the 2016 election, when a cashier at a store I patronize was gloating to another customer about Trump's big win. The other customer loved it. She did this right in front of me, so either she thought I would be sympathetic or simply didn't care.

I hate it that anyone might be basing their assumptions on my voting habits on my race, but I suspect that some do. White liberals here are either a trace element or very, very quiet.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:47 PM
 
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Who talks politics with strangers?

I don't even initiate conversation with people. Why would I?
It happens all the time, especially in our current political season. Get out more.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:49 PM
 
Location: My House
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I've been telling people how much I could not stand that jackass for decades, if he came up in conversation. Nobody is surprised that I don't like him.

Also, pretty much anyone who doesn't put up with racists, idiots, or bullies is unsurprised that I would not like him.

It's kind of a given, really.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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I'm not sure what people assume about me, but I suspect strangers may assume I am a Trump supporter, mostly because this is a very conservative town. I know I am always pleasantly surprised when I learn that a new acquaintance is also a liberal. It's kind of like finding someone from one's hometown in a strange place. I recall one incident shortly after the 2016 election, when a cashier at a store I patronize was gloating to another customer about Trump's big win. The other customer loved it. She did this right in front of me, so either she thought I would be sympathetic or simply didn't care.

I hate it that anyone might be basing their assumptions on my voting habits on my race, but I suspect that some do. White liberals here are either a trace element or very, very quiet.
So interesting! Thanks for sharing. I am super curious about the white liberal experience. Around me, people are so free with their anti-Trump opinions...and I think it’s because I’m black.
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