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Old 12-17-2018, 11:04 AM
 
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... if making payments to people to make them go away and keep it private in a legal NDA before you become President a crime ...

the NDA is not where the crime lies. it's that the amount exceeds individual campaign limits, that it was for for the benefit of the campaign and the fact that they took measures to conceal the money that has made them guilty of the felony. the money could have literally been used to pay for pizza for the campaign staff and the contribution would still be illegal.


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But Trump using his own money in NDA ....

that's not true.


cohen paid the daniels payoff ( giuliani confirmed that ) and was, most likely, reimbursed by the trump organization, not trump personally.


AMI paid mcdougal, and it wasn't a NDA. mcdougal was under the impression that her story was to be published.


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If he truly did violate campaign laws, then absolutely….

cohen has already admitted to and been sentenced for the crime. he cites trump as the director of the crime with knowledge that it was wrong ( and a 2012 interview shows trump was well aware of the legalities of the john edwards' case ).
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Old 12-17-2018, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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I'd rather not know about the orange idiot and how he spends his naked time. I don't care that he slept with a porn star right after his child was born, it is perfectly in character for him and any woman stupid enough to marry him gets what they deserve.
Using campaign funds to hide damaging information to help in an election is breaking the law. The sex part isn't what is a big deal. His actions to hide it are.
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Old 12-17-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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Bottom line is this: it mattered in 1992-2000 so it matters now!
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Old 12-17-2018, 04:22 PM
 
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I'd rather not know about the orange idiot and how he spends his naked time. I don't care that he slept with a porn star right after his child was born, it is perfectly in character for him and any woman stupid enough to marry him gets what they deserve.
Using campaign funds to hide damaging information to help in an election is breaking the law. The sex part isn't what is a big deal. His actions to hide it are.

Orange idiot? Juvenile. So Kennedy and Clinton didn't try to hide their sexual escapades while they were presidents no less? At least Trump hasn't had extra marital sex while being president and in the White House Oval Office.
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Old 12-17-2018, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Orange idiot? Juvenile. So Kennedy and Clinton didn't try to hide their sexual escapades while they were presidents no less? At least Trump hasn't had extra marital sex while being president and in the White House Oval Office.
You sure about that, with all these weekends in Mar-A-Loco?

And then he and Melania lived separately for about 6 months, she in NYC, him in DC.

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Old 12-17-2018, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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Orange idiot? Juvenile. So Kennedy and Clinton didn't try to hide their sexual escapades while they were presidents no less? At least Trump hasn't had extra marital sex while being president and in the White House Oval Office.
I don't care about who any of them have sex with. The one who had sex in the white house was impeached by a bunch of right wingers for lying about it. Trump has lied and used campaign funds to hide it, right wingers don't care.

Yes, orange idiot. Juvenile? No, its accurate.
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Old 12-17-2018, 05:55 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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who the President sleeps with does not concern me.
who the President has sex with does.
blackmail/pillow talk/and any
number of diseases or
possible poisonings.
Exactly....
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Old 12-17-2018, 09:38 PM
 
Location: My House
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Yeah, that's why NONE DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS are for and totally legal. If NDA while in office is a problem then why can Congress have NDA worth millions of taxpayers dollars to keep the allegations private and nobody has been indicted? Trump used his own private money BEFORE he took the oath of office.


NDA that has to do with private matters with private funds has nothing to do with public funds or government business. Isn't shouldn't be your problem. What Trump does with his private money on legal agreements on private matters is none of anybody business.
You need to trust that you're not 100% getting the gravity of the situation here.
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Old 12-17-2018, 09:38 PM
 
Location: My House
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You can think that from your pedestrian viewpoint, but established campaign finance law begs to differ with you.

Payments made for purposes of influencing an election are quite highly regulated, whether the cash came from a PAC or your own private bank account. Doesn't necessarily matter if you are a candidate. And paying a porn star $130K hush money may well run afoul of this...
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Old 12-17-2018, 09:41 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Why does it matter who the President sleep with?
Doesn't.
If it's a problem Melania will take it up with him. (I'd rather fight Mike Tyson)
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