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It probably doesn't belong to Brinks, but to their customers, but other than that, I agree: the people who took the money knew how to make sure it was returned to the rightful owners, and they should have done so.
It looks like there is evidence, and it looks like a lot of it came from private citizens.
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I'm not really sure how the fact that this happened on a public road is relevant to anything.
1. Brinks has custodial control of the money. The rightful owner is indeed the customers.
2. Public road not relevant? Good Lord!
If there's one thing I've tried pounding into your head it's the fact that there is private land and non-private land (what you folks call public). If a homeowner goes outside and puts money all over his yard you can't go on his property and pick it up. These folks found money on land not in private use.
No you got to explain yourself here. How is this not property theft? The cash belongs to the companies transporting the cash in the care of a Brinks truck. Why is it any different at the company's place of business than falling out of a truck? I thought libertarianism was based on property rights and cash is most definitely an asset and assets are property. What makes this case different and why wouldn't this be hypocritical?
It turns out that this thread in it's premise is not even valid. All of the analogies used were wrong. The truck was nearby and the two Brinks employees were trying to get the money. I'm assuming they were armed. The thieves were lucky they were not shot.
There's a video at the top of the above link taken by someone stopped in traffic going the ther way. Five seconds in, you can see the Brinks truck on the ide of the road. So the correct analogy is you're waking down the sidewalk and drop your billfold. Two people behind you and someone passing you see this happen at the same time you do and all f y'all run for the billfold. The three people passing me get the money and credit cards ut of the wallet.
Sorry, that's all circumstantial evidence. Of course it's overwhelming but the burden of a conviction lies with the State.
The fact remains that money was on non-private (public) land. It was entirely possible that an individual picked it up with no knowledge of its rightful owner. As such, no person can be charged (without further evidence).
No you got to explain yourself here. How is this not property theft? The cash belongs to the companies transporting the cash in the care of a Brinks truck. Why is it any different at the company's place of business than falling out of a truck? I thought libertarianism was based on property rights and cash is most definitely an asset and assets are property. What makes this case different and why wouldn't this be hypocritical?
There is no way to ascertain the rightful owner of the bills unless someone can provide a serial number.
Let me ask you this: How likely do you think it is that somewhere on the Jersey freeway system there is a penny, dime, or dollar bill on the road unrelated to this incident? Does Brinks now have a claim to all that money?
Quick, get Al Roker on the horn. Winds were out of the east that day. Some bills may have floated all the way to Scranton.
*be careful picking up money in Scranton today...the State may bust you for "theft"*
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Originally Posted by No_Recess
1. Brinks has custodial control of the money. The rightful owner is indeed the customers.
2. Public road not relevant? Good Lord!
If there's one thing I've tried pounding into your head it's the fact that there is private land and non-private land (what you folks call public). If a homeowner goes outside and puts money all over his yard you can't go on his property and pick it up. These folks found money on land not in private use.
Where did you come up with this nonsense?
Where does it end? Can I take your car if you park it on a public street rather than a private driveway or garage?
If you drop your wallet on the sidewalk, can I pick it up and walk off with it?
Your position is so absurd that I find it implausible that even you believe it.
Actually a standard law that is probably observed in most places, is that if you find money, you are required to take it to the police. They take your name and if someone doesn't show up within a certain time and make a credible claim to it, then it legally becomes yours. But there are some places where the government gets a percentage of it.
Yeah, and when you turn it in someone (a cop's distant 3rd cousin) miracously comes in to claim it.
You kicked up nothing, but if you need it, take it. All I needed was clarification.
Let's not fight.
You're about the only statist in this thread who sees what the State is doing here.
Team Crazy...Party of 2! (Mpowering and no_recess)
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