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Old 12-19-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Any contract with a PUBLIC entity cannot violate the Constitution. The public school district presented an unconstitutional requirement. I'm siding with the teacher on this one.
For their employees.


Under subcontract, I work under way different expectations under the scope of MY contract, than that of the employees of the firm, performing the same work.
They agree to my terms, or they find someone else's business to run.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:03 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No she isn't.
Never has been employed by the school district.
She has been a independent contractor, not paying her taxes for a few years there. It is forbidden in Islam to pay tax or interest.
An independent contractor cannot be contracted to compelled speech by a public entity. Period. That's unconstitutional.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:05 AM
 
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No she isn't. Never has been employed by the school district.
True.

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She has been a independent contractor, not paying her taxes for a few years there.
Source please.

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It is forbidden in Islam to pay tax or interest.
What do you mean? Muslims don't pay income taxes or interest?
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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No she isn't.
Never has been employed by the school district.
She has been a independent contractor, not paying her taxes for a few years there. It is forbidden in Islam to pay tax or interest.
Taking or paying interest is forbidden in Islam, some people still do it and that's their choice.
There is nothing forbidden about paying Tax though.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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For their employees.


Under subcontract, I work under way different expectations under the scope of MY contract, than that of the employees of the firm, performing the same work.
I don't doubt that. Do those contracts ever require compelled speech as a term of contraction?
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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Anti-Jewish settlement policy is not the same as anti-Semitic.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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Anti-Jewish settlement policy is not the same as anti-Semitic.
It matters not of which the attempt at compelled speech consists. What matters is that a public entity CANNOT compel speech. Private entity to private entity contracting? Have at it. When a public entity is the contractee? Compelled speech is unconstitutional.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:36 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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She is self employed. She is not an employee of the district.
I know. And?


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She is the only one barking.
No, she's not. Also, this has nothing to do with your claim, or with my response to that claim.


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Old 12-19-2018, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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For their employees.


Under subcontract, I work under way different expectations under the scope of MY contract, than that of the employees of the firm, performing the same work.
They agree to my terms, or they find someone else's business to run.
You are confusing private with public, she is being paid by the school district on a contract so these are state funds paid for by taxpayers. All contractors for state and federal need to comply with their regulations and laws, none of which is giving up free speech.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:53 AM
 
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For their employees.
No, for everyone. That's why if a public entity allows room for a religious display on public property (town hall, public park, etc.), they must allow all who wish to do so to also have a religious display. That's why the satanic display next to the manger on public property is Constitutional. Allowing only one or the other, is not. Either ALL, or none.
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