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View Poll Results: Democrats.....Whats more important to you?
Border Security 10 24.39%
Impeaching Trump 31 75.61%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-19-2018, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Democrats are hypocrites. They want more ILLEGAL, potential criminals here putting Americans AT RISK. Own it LIBS. Be honest for a change.
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Democrats are hypocrites. They want more ILLEGAL, potential criminals here putting Americans AT RISK. Own it LIBS. Be honest for a change.
If you ask for honesty, you must stop making dishonest statements yourself. No one is asking for what you claim they are all asking for.
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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If you ask for honesty, you must stop making dishonest statements yourself. No one is asking for what you claim they are all asking for.
Then why do Democrats push for AMNESTY which is essentially the promotion for OPEN BORDERS, and the reduction of sovereignty of the U.S.? With the Democrat Amnesty, there is no penalty for coming here illegally. In fact it is an incentive for people to come here ILLEGALLY.

Does Finland allow Illegal Aliens to come into the country without penalty, and deportation? Does Finland enforce their borders?
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:37 AM
 
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Democrats are hypocrites. They want more ILLEGAL, potential criminals here putting Americans AT RISK. Own it LIBS. Be honest for a change.
You probably should take a carefully look at FBI crime states.... the shocker you don't want to recognize is the number of "white criminals" who are descendants of white immigrants over centuries and decades is the highest number of criminals if you review the stats and face the honest of the truth it presents.

No one has advocated for the increase in Illegals. Immigration Reform includes a pathway to citizenship. Border Security has many potentials for technology, that does not require a wall. The Berlin Wall came down and China does not rely on any "Great Wall" to manage its borders.

We have fences and walls in areas that had historical high illegal crossing. We have enough technology to monitor all our borders, to the north and to the south.
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:40 AM
 
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Then why do Democrats push for AMNESTY which is essentially the promotion for OPEN BORDERS, and the reduction of sovereignty of the U.S.? With the Democrat Amnesty, there is no penalty for coming here illegally. In fact it is an incentive for people to come here ILLEGALLY.

Does Finland allow Illegal Aliens to come into the country without penalty, and deportation? Does Finland enforce their borders?
Amnesty has not a darn thing to do with promotion of Open Borders....
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Then why do Democrats push for AMNESTY which is essentially the promotion for OPEN BORDERS, and the reduction of sovereignty of the U.S.? With the Democrat Amnesty, there is no penalty for coming here illegally. In fact it is an incentive for people to come here ILLEGALLY.

Does Finland allow Illegal Aliens to come into the country without penalty, and deportation? Does Finland enforce their borders?
You are moving the goal posts. First you asked what they have done for border security, and I showed you what they proposed. Now you are asking about amnesty, and try to deflect into talking about some other country.

Again, our borders are enforced, and NO ONE has asked that to stop.
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:44 AM
 
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How about adding "funding for border security but no wall". I would choose that.
That's how we know that those who don't want a wall are not serious about border security.

Drones and surveillance let the border patrol know that illegals have entered but it does nothing to stop the entry.

It only aids in apprehensions once entry has been made. It does nothing to stop entry. A wall does.
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If that is the case how did 10 to 20 million illegals manage to gain entry?
Most flew in and overstayed their visas.
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Democrats.....Whats more important to you?

Border Security (Building the wall)

or

Impeaching Trump
False dichotomy.

Look it up so you'll know better.

Meanwhile, do Trumplings prefer treason over obstruction of justice?

That's a REAL choice.

Carry on.

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Old 12-19-2018, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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I was reading recently that many low paying, low skill jobs are not being filled because many Americans don't want to do those jobs. I support allowing people into the country who are willing to do those jobs. I don't believe "all" illegals are lazy or criminal who only want to take advantage of the benefits of living in America.


I worked for many years adjacent to a tree farm that brought in Hispanic workers to thin trees. The owner felt he had to do this, because Americans did not want those jobs.
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