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1 basically, if a family member, or leo, has a reason to believe a gun owner is disturbed, or violent , or could be in a very bad place emotionally, the police or sheriff can confiscate the person's guns, at least temporarily.
It seems to allow this without a court order at the discretion of police to do so
2 what happens when someone bought a gun say worth $600 and the court and lawyer costs to get it back runs way over the cost of the gun? Many will not bother to try to get it back. Who gets the gun then and is that not defacto confiscation?
3 It has been documented and known that a spouse, friend or family member have or can lie about the person in question, yet there is no proof needed to confiscate the gun.
4 Grey areas, quote "
She believes after four-and-a-half months, Florida’s version of the ‘red flag” law as its also known is starting to reveal some disturbing grey areas, specifically among individuals who don't have histories of violence or mental illness.
“These are individuals who are often exercising their first amendment rights online, who are protecting constitutionally protected speech online,” she said. “Maybe it was odious, maybe people didn’t like it but they were hit with the risk protection order because of it.”
1 basically, if a family member, or leo, has a reason to believe a gun owner is disturbed, or violent , or could be in a very bad place emotionally, the police or sheriff can confiscate the person's guns, at least temporarily.
It seems to allow this without a court order at the discretion of police to do so
2 what happens when someone bought a gun say worth $600 and the court and lawyer costs to get it back runs way over the cost of the gun? Many will not bother to try to get it back. Who gets the gun then and is that not defacto confiscation?
3 It has been documented and known that a spouse, friend or family member have or can lie about the person in question, yet there is no proof needed to confiscate the gun.
4 Grey areas, quote "
She believes after four-and-a-half months, Florida’s version of the ‘red flag” law as its also known is starting to reveal some disturbing grey areas, specifically among individuals who don't have histories of violence or mental illness.
“These are individuals who are often exercising their first amendment rights online, who are protecting constitutionally protected speech online,” she said. “Maybe it was odious, maybe people didn’t like it but they were hit with the risk protection order because of it.”
He was talking to his brother on his porch that he couldn't make xmas without it being a hassle so he said, "You will be better off without me" as in, attending because someone would have to drive 130 miles each way to get him at the airport late at night.
Neighbor heard it, called cops said guy is suicidal. Cops show up and found he'd been drinking. Based solely on the call from neighbor they hauled off his collection. He had to attend AA classes and a bunch of other garbage, on top of hiring an attorney to get his weapons back.
He was talking to his brother on his porch that he couldn't make xmas without it being a hassle so he said, "You will be better off without me" as in, attending because someone would have to drive 130 miles each way to get him at the airport late at night.
Neighbor heard it, called cops said guy is suicidal. Cops show up and found he'd been drinking. Based solely on the call from neighbor they hauled off his collection. He had to attend AA classes and a bunch of other garbage, on top of hiring an attorney to get his weapons back.
1 basically, if a family member, or leo, has a reason to believe a gun owner is disturbed, or violent , or could be in a very bad place emotionally, the police or sheriff can confiscate the person's guns, at least temporarily.
It seems to allow this without a court order at the discretion of police to do so
2 what happens when someone bought a gun say worth $600 and the court and lawyer costs to get it back runs way over the cost of the gun? Many will not bother to try to get it back. Who gets the gun then and is that not defacto confiscation?
3 It has been documented and known that a spouse, friend or family member have or can lie about the person in question, yet there is no proof needed to confiscate the gun.
4 Grey areas, quote "
She believes after four-and-a-half months, Florida’s version of the ‘red flag” law as its also known is starting to reveal some disturbing grey areas, specifically among individuals who don't have histories of violence or mental illness.
“These are individuals who are often exercising their first amendment rights online, who are protecting constitutionally protected speech online,” she said. “Maybe it was odious, maybe people didn’t like it but they were hit with the risk protection order because of it.”
It is true that this situation is a guilty until proven innocent and that the person has to pay to prove innocence. As far as I know if someone provides a false accusation there is no punishment for doing so also?
This is not only treading on the 2nd but the 1st amendment as well. Also the 4th and 5th amendments.
100% agree with that. It should always go before the courts first and on a case by case basis.
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