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Old 12-19-2018, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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And republican policies make homelessness and infectious disease outbreaks worse.


Donald Trump’s budget calls for "drastic cuts to housing benefits that help millions of low income seniors, people with disabilities, families with children, veterans, and other vulnerable people afford their homes."
President Trump Calls For Drastic Cuts To Affordable Housing, February 12, 2018 | National Low Income Housing Coalition

Trumps budget cuts $3 billion dollars from Community Development Block Grants, cuts $2 billion from the Public Housing Capital Fund, and cuts $1.6 billion from the Public Housing Operating Fund.
https://www.curbed.com/2018/3/13/171...trump-hud-cuts

Trump has ended programs that house homeless veterans.
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/tru...-care-of-them/

Trump wants to eliminate the US Interagency Council on Homelessness.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...essness-agency

"Trumps budget would have a devastating impact on Habitat for Humanity’s work in the U.S.”
https://www.curbed.com/2018/2/13/170...housing-crisis

"Trumps Budget Would Increase Homelessness and Hardship in Every State, End Federal Role in Community Development."
https://www.cbpp.org/blog/trump-budg...ederal-role-in
https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...-trump-budget/


Donald Trump's budget cuts the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) budget by 17% or $1.2 billion dollars.
Trump's proposed 2018 budget cuts to NIH, CDC, FDA, HHS backlash - Business Insider

Trump's budget cuts $838 million dollars from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8367b79af82d

Trump's budget cuts funding for programs to fight infectious disease outbreaks.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...n-trump-budget


And Donald Trump has already transferred the above funding for homeless programs and infectious disease prevention to the richest 0.1% of Americans via the Trump tax cuts.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno...nalysis-finds/
Trump and GOP Tax Cut Could Cost Your Kids $2.2 Trillion | Time
LA and NYC should just increase taxes and issue more debt through to counter President Trump's austerity measures.

Los Angeles needs to stop relying on President Trump for handouts to fix it's problems.

They didn't vote for Trump so why should Republicans bail out LA and it's Eric Garcetti manufactured homeless crisis.

So many hard-working people in middle-America putting in a honest days work making sure American's can eat and paying all those taxes so that LA can get handouts for the crisis the Democrats created.
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Old 12-19-2018, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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BTW, go to the OP's link. On page 14 it has a map showing homeless rates by state.

The problem is largely confined to the west coast (incl. NV, AK and HI) plus NY. Liberal IL, for example, has a lower homeless rate than conservative MO next door, not to mention every single western state sans Utah - INCLUDING republican bastions such as MT, ID and WY.

Yes you heard that right: Illinois has a lower homeless rate than Montana, Idaho and Wyoming!

Page 26 has something similar. Again, it's largely confined to the same states listed above, plus CO.

For both maps (and, frankly, *all* maps in the document) you need to pay attention to the color shading of the state, not the number listed atop the state, which is the aggregate number).

Homeless veterans map on pg 59 is also similar, as is chronically homeless on pg 66.

It would be nice if they had data tables you could download. Maybe if I fish around their site I'll find something of that nature.

Last edited by James Bond 007; 12-19-2018 at 05:31 PM..
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Old 12-19-2018, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Here we go, I made a screenshot of the first map.

Again, pay attention to the color shading of the states, which shows the homeless rate. The number atop each state is the aggregate number, which isn't very useful since, of course, larger (population) states will have larger homeless populations. That's not a very good mapping technique mixing different types of figures like that on one map, but there's nothing we can do about that.

The key to the homeless rate is at the bottom-right. The lighter the color, the lower the homeless rate.

Again, the major problem is largely a west coast one, plus maybe NY (and maybe sort-of MA?). Even conservative Alaska has a high rate. What this geographic concentration tells you is, the phenomenon has something to do with being on the west coast, not anything political. Several liberal states, such as the aforementioned Illinois, have low rates, and western states (even the conservatives ones) in general have higher rates than eastern states.

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Old 12-19-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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Looks like North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Mississippi take care of their own with their extremely progressive safety-net policies that ensure some of the lowest amounts of homelessness in America.

New York City and California on the other hand are just becoming one big homeless camp.

California has 89,000 unsheltered homeless residents, many of whom don't have ovens and if they want a hot meal do it the old-fashioned way. Hence, big homeless encampment fires are extremely common.

New York City has 78,000 homeless, a vast majority in close quarters sharing crowded facilities, bathrooms and buildings spreading viruses aggressively all over the city.

78,000 homeless in Rick DeBlasio's NYC. I guess at least unlike California, they provide a shelter full of disease that makes flu and norovirus that makes the city one big petri of sickness.

Will be interesting to see how high the number will go in elitest, liberal Democratic cities full of their ivy-league educated consultants who propose big tax increases that just force more onto the streets.

https://www.hudexchange.info/resourc...HAR-Part-1.pdf

New York is actually much worse per-capita than California but they warehouse the homeless in diseased-ridden filthy shelters that cause the city to be a petri-dish of diseases and viruses.

Ultra-progressive Republican North Dakota has 75 homeless families compared to 52,000 families in Democratic NY 20,964 families in regressive Democratic California that is full of Democratic politicians who claim they are so compassionate.


I used to live in the upper Midwest. We used to say. "20 (degrees) below keeps the riff-raff out".


More populous states are going to have more homeless, as there are more people


People will tend to migrate to those states which have services more favorable to the homeless
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:12 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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LA and NYC should just increase taxes and issue more debt through to counter President Trump's austerity measures.

Los Angeles needs to stop relying on President Trump for handouts to fix it's problems.

They didn't vote for Trump so why should Republicans bail out LA and it's Eric Garcetti manufactured homeless crisis.

So many hard-working people in middle-America putting in a honest days work making sure American's can eat and paying all those taxes so that LA can get handouts for the crisis the Democrats created.
Thank you for your response. But I believe on this issue we are never going to agree.

Have a good one Lovecrowds,
Chad.
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Houston
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What's the population of North Dakota compared to the population of California? Anyone? OP?

This thread is a joke.
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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What's the population of North Dakota compared to the population of California? Anyone? OP?

This thread is a joke.
Got that in post 24:
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Hmm, let's see ...

The population of ND is 755,393
The population of CA is 39.54 million
The population of NYC is 8.623 million

ND: 542/755,393 = 0.0007 homeless people per capita
CA: 129,000/39,540,000 = 0.003 homeless people per capita
NYC: 78,676/8,623,000 = 0.009 homeless people per capita

That's the extent of the problem. Of course, ND has no big cities, which would be guaranteed to raise its rate if it did have one. Not to mention it's frigid cold which also is going to scare away some homeless.

But as usual, this is another ridiculous thread where the OP compares a sparsely populated rural state to the biggest city in the US and the most populous state in the US.
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:38 PM
 
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Fresh new videos showcasing Eric Garcetti and Maxine Waters Los Angeles.
Why are you SO DESPARATE? To mock and demean California. To the world .... it and mighty NYC are their places to visit before they die .... not Texas. If it s Texas? It isn't a city. It's the more Western-type areas.

You act like two Democrats define California of 10s of millions. BIG FAIL AGAIN. You're acting desperate and goggling anything you can dish up.... or your favorite EXTREMST NEWS FEED LINKS.
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