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Old 12-20-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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I find the far left just as nasty as the far right, indeed political extremists are generally unpleasant people with a warped view of the world.
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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At least we no longer have to pretend like we believe that the Democrat left is not the sheeps clothing for the socialist (Marxist, fascist, communist, Maoist) movement here in this country any more. They have come out of the closet big time. Finally.
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:32 AM
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I find the far left just as nasty as the far right, indeed political extremists are generally unpleasant people with a warped view of the world.
This is the truth of the matter.
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:35 AM
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At least we no longer have to pretend like we believe that the Democrat left is not the sheeps clothing for the socialist (Marxist, fascist, communist, Maoist) movement here in this country any more. They have come out of the closet big time. Finally.
They are Anarchists (ANTIFA). Look it up.

I am the left and I don't want Marxism, certainly don't want right wing fascism(?), I don't want failed communism and I'm not Chinese (not that there's anything wrong with that).

A pinch of socialism, mixed in with a heaping helping of capitalism is what almost every American wants.

Don't get yourself so excited over what Alex Jones says.

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Old 12-20-2018, 08:57 AM
 
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I find the far left just as nasty as the far right, indeed political extremists are generally unpleasant people with a warped view of the world.
This is accurate - even though it is definitely more proactive and aggressive from the left side.
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:57 AM
 
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They are Anarchists. Look it up.

I am the left and I don't want Marxism, certainly don't want right wing fascism(?), I don't want failed communism and I'm not Chinese (not that there's anything wrong with that).

A pinch of socialism, mixed in with a heaping helping of capitalism is what almost every American wants.

Don't get yourself so excited over what Alex Jones says.
They are the close to being the exact opposite of anarchists. So that we can all look up the definition of anarchy together, here is the definition from Marian Websters dictionary (not that dictionaries are not ever biased or wrong, but the definition of this word is not really being disputed by anyone, as far as I am aware)
Definition of anarchy

1a : absence of government
_b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority the city's descent into anarchy
_c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government

2a : absence or denial of any authority or established order anarchy prevailed in the ghetto
As you can see, anarchy is the belief in NO government at all.

Socialists, including the American Democrat left, believes government is the answer to almost everything, and aside from the military or the police, you will be hard pressed to find very many recommendations for smaller government that the Democrat left supports. Increasingly this is even now extending to regulating speech and thought under the guise that anything that that is not sufficiently compliant with their agenda is "hate speech," which should be regulated, made criminal and banned.

Socialists, including the American Democrat left are not opposed to all government. Just the opposite in fact.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:09 AM
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They are Anarchists. Look it up.

I am the left and I don't want Marxism, certainly don't want right wing fascism(?), I don't want failed communism and I'm not Chinese (not that there's anything wrong with that).

A pinch of socialism, mixed in with a heaping helping of capitalism is what almost every American wants.

Don't get yourself so excited over what Alex Jones says.
You see the problem with some of these guys is that they only believe in "absolutes". You are either for or against, left or right, fascist or socialist, this or that. There is no in between. I get this fear mongering tactic most from so called conservatives. They seem to identify anyone not like them as left, antifa, socialist, open boarder, illegal immigration yada, yada, yada.

I too want some balance like being able to reap what my tax money is sewing, free market with some regulation to curb abuse. Free speech and the right to protect ones self.

I just cannot ride or die for any political party or affiliation.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:12 AM
 
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At least we no longer have to pretend like we believe that the Democrat left is not the sheeps clothing for the socialist (Marxist, fascist, communist, Maoist) movement here in this country any more. They have come out of the closet big time. Finally.
Stringing words together does not make you right. Or, are you being sarcastic? I do that when I am teasing the posters here.

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They are the close to being the exact opposite of anarchists. So that we can all look up the definition of anarchy together, here is the definition from Marian Websters dictionary (not that dictionaries are not ever biased or wrong, but the definition of this word is not really being disputed by anyone, as far as I am aware)
Definition of anarchy

1a : absence of government
_b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority the city's descent into anarchy
_c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government

2a : absence or denial of any authority or established order anarchy prevailed in the ghetto
As you can see, anarchy is the belief in NO government at all.

Socialists, including the American Democrat left, believes government is the answer to almost everything, and aside from the military or the police, you will be hard pressed to find very many recommendations for smaller government that the Democrat left supports. Increasingly this is even now extending to regulating speech and thought under the guise that anything that that is not sufficiently compliant with their agenda is "hate speech," which should be regulated, made criminal and banned.

Socialists, including the American Democrat left are not opposed to all government. Just the opposite in fact.
ANTIFA is an anarchist group. You are mixing up a lot of subjects, definitions, groups, political parties, etc... I actually think you are serious. For a second, I thought you were being sarcastic. Oops.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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How many "survivalists" have been assaulting people and vandalizing property in downtown Portland or Seattle lately? "Survivalists" want to be left the F alone-no more and no less. Antifa want to unleash violence and force their political viewpoints on others. Hardly comparable.


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1. you don't see "survivalists" calling for the violent overthrow of the US government. If so, they would be arrested.


2. You don't see "survivalists" promoting their agenda on tv "news" programs


3. You don't see "survivalists" engaging in violent protests in the streets or harassing private citizens


4. You don't see "survivalists" advocating a political system which has killed, and will kill, hundreds of millions in an effort to enslave the world.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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It doesn’t matter if they’re right wing, left wing, or other wing, if they’re promoting violent overthrow of the government, they should be deported or maybe even imprisoned depending on what they’ve done.

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