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Old 12-20-2018, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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One doesn't need to sit in a classroom for 16 or 18 years in Texas to have an excellent career in high-growth fields like manufacturing, construction, mining and trades jobs to have a nice home in a nice community.

California on the hand it's a requirement to be indoctrinated and pay for education crudentials to have much of a possibility to have even the smallest single-family home in many areas

A working couple doesn't need have lots of credentials in Texas to afford a very nice home and have an excellent quality of life.
As usual, you're making up stuff.

Data as of 2016 from the National Association of Manufacturers

- California has 1,284,100 manufacturing jobs with pay averaging $100,060 a year. Those manufacturing jobs comprise 7.80% of California's nonfarm jobs.
- Texas has 848,100 manufacturing jobs with pay averaging $82,544 a year. Those manufacturing jobs comprise 7.05% of Texas' nonfarm jobs.

Contrary to popular belief, California is more of a manufacturing state than Texas.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:22 AM
 
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As usual, you're making up stuff.

Data as of 2016 from the National Association of Manufacturers

- California has 1,284,100 manufacturing jobs with pay averaging $100,060 a year. Those manufacturing jobs comprise 7.80% of California's nonfarm jobs.
- Texas has 848,100 manufacturing jobs with pay averaging $82,544 a year. Those manufacturing jobs comprise 7.05% of Texas' nonfarm jobs.

Contrary to popular belief, California is more of a manufacturing state than Texas.
People who toss out statistics using raw #s and not as %s always amuse me because they have no clue what they're talking about

What exactly is your point in this argument? That Texas has just as many terrible illegal aliens who contribute nothing to society as California?
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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People who toss out statistics using raw #s and not as %s always amuse me because they have no clue what they're talking about

What exactly is your point in this argument? That Texas has just as many terrible illegal aliens who contribute nothing to society as California?
You didn't read what I was responding to. lovecrowds tried to tell me, essentially, there are no blue collar type jobs in California, and the only jobs you can get are ones which need a college education. That is false.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:32 AM
 
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You didn't read what I was responding to. lovecrowds tried to tell me, essentially, there are no blue collar type jobs in California, and the only jobs you can get are ones which need a college education. That is false.
In one statement you managed to

1) Assume I didn't read something based on what I selectively responded to
2) Selectively responded to something somebody else said
3) Immediately went to 'always' 'never' 'every' 'none' absolutes like every other liberal (see what I did there?)
4) Failed to actually answer my question

What a joke this site and its posters are
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:32 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Not sure if this is a per capita measurement,



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In fact, the 2,510,370 California residents 25 and older who, according to the Census Bureau, never finished ninth grade outnumber the entire populations of 15 other states.






but if it is... very telling what the migration of illegal immigration has done to those states education systems. New Mexico and Arizona cannot be far behind, with a halo effect stretching away from that line in the sand.... and across mountains.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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You didn't read what I was responding to. lovecrowds tried to tell me, essentially, there are no blue collar type jobs in California, and the only jobs you can get are ones which need a college education. That is false.
https://www.bls.gov/regions/southwest/texas.htm#eag

https://www.bls.gov/regions/west/california.htm#eag

California does have lots of manufacturers still, but they aren't growing in employment because they state is so anti-business and they have a corporate income tax for no purpose in California.

Hard to move a manufacturing facility away easily, but California doesn't want them.

Texas has a much higher percentage of growth in that field because no corporate income confiscating money from manufacturers.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:34 AM
 
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I actually agree that illegal immigrants- and their offspring- are a large part of that statistic. But if you look at where they are mostly employed it is often in the Redder areas of those states...


And both attract highly educated people from within the US. That is a large part of the growth in the portions of Texas that are starting to swing blue.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:34 AM
 
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People who toss out statistics using raw #s and not as %s always amuse me because they have no clue what they're talking about

What exactly is your point in this argument? That Texas has just as many terrible illegal aliens who contribute nothing to society as California?
The poster posted raw numbers and percentages.

And I think the point was rather obvious...

"Contrary to popular belief, California is more of a manufacturing state than Texas."
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:36 AM
 
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I actually agree that illegal immigrants- and their offspring- are a large part of that statistic. But if you look at where they are mostly employed it is often in the Redder areas of those states...


And both attract highly educated people from within the US. That is a large part of the growth in the portions of Texas that are starting to swing blue.
Yea, hard to work in the finance district of SF when you speak no English, have no marketable skills, and show zero desire to contribute to this country in any meaningful wayafter living here 20 years
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:37 AM
 
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Yesterday it was Colorado, today it's California. Why are far-right conservatives so obsessed with attacking liberal states about these obscure, irrelevant statistics?

Yesterday it was bathroom doors in a Colorado train station, today it's how many Californians don't make it through 9th grade.

Why are some conservatives around here so angry?! Do you guys wake up every morning and just start screaming in bed "damn those liberal scum!"

Some of you people need to log out of City-Data and watch some puppy videos on YouTube or something. All that anger and hatred isn't healthy.
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