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Old 12-28-2018, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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President Harry Truman had a sign on his desk: "The buck stops here!"
In other words, "The Boss" gets the credit or blame for everything that happens, no matter who actually did it.
So, yes, the shut down is trump's fault, even though the demoncraps were the actual cause of it, by not voting for the budget bill. Isn't that what happened in 2013? Yep, they did it again!

 
Old 12-28-2018, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by BeerGeek40 View Post
Well, how about because the democrats won't give one inch on some $$ for border security.
Oh sure they will. Depends on what they get in trade.

That’s how politics works.

Most of the borderland is private property. $5 billion won’t cover the cost of confiscation of private property, appeals, court costs and eventual condemnation.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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Polls are awesome! Just ask President Hillary Clinton.
Just never give that up do you? That line has gotten way too old.

The polls were pretty accurate in 2018. They predicted about a 40 seat loss for the GOP in the House and guess what happened?

I suppose though the truth is that the right wing could care less what a majority of Americans think. Just so long as they get their agenda.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Donald Trump's exact words: "I'll own the shutdown, I won't blame you, Chuck."

I'd rather believe Donald Trump's own words than some random Trumpling on the internet, desperately trying to spin the truth.

Donald Trump literally said, in front of cameras, that he would own the shutdown. Do any Trump supporters have the guts to deny that or spin it?


who's denying...


trump said it, at least he was honest, unlike obozo in 13
 
Old 12-28-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by NeutralParty View Post
Donald Trump's exact words: "I'll own the shutdown, I won't blame you, Chuck."

I'd rather believe Donald Trump's own words than some random Trumpling on the internet, desperately trying to spin the truth.

Donald Trump literally said, in front of cameras, that he would own the shutdown. Do any Trump supporters have the guts to deny that or spin it?
What Trump omitted saying, but should have included, is quite well-known: "I am lying again, of course."
 
Old 12-28-2018, 09:01 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by tillman7 View Post





For the right reasons.
National Security and Sovereignty
The Democrats CR leverage ploy, instead of a budget, is being used against them the same as last year with DACA.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 09:02 AM
 
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Why not he was on national tv saying he was proud of the Shutdown and that he was to blame for it.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 10:14 AM
 
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Just never give that up do you? That line has gotten way too old.

The polls were pretty accurate in 2018. They predicted about a 40 seat loss for the GOP in the House and guess what happened?

I suppose though the truth is that the right wing could care less what a majority of Americans think. Just so long as they get their agenda.
You seem really triggered by the truth.

Last edited by CaseyB; 12-28-2018 at 03:14 PM.. Reason: off topic
 
Old 12-28-2018, 11:13 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BeerGeek40 View Post
Well, how about because the democrats won't give one inch on some $$ for border security.
Oh, but they have.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Oh, but they have.
nope


the only thing liberals have done is lie, lie, and more lies


wall , fence, more border patrol, doesn't matter, Americans do want their country secured


why cant the democrats keep their word...




where is the secured border ted kennedy SWORE would happen




the flood gates were opened in 1965...EVERY amnesty bill was written by ted kennedy....




In 1986 Senator Kennedy said, ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’
old liberal ted lied

as usual all liberal can do is lie


liberals will lie no matter what...….. why do the fascio-socialist liberals continue to coddle criminals???
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