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Old 12-20-2018, 09:26 PM
 
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Originally Posted by poisonwoodbao View Post
This is ridiculous.

Trump MUST indicate that he will not sign any budget that doesn’t include border wall funding.

He has not done so.

Please demand that he do so as his re-election hangs in the balance.

Yes, he can absolutely own the Democrats here, but he is not doing so as of now.
No. Democrats own him along with most of our country. He promised Mexico would pay for it. And now he wants us to pay for it. No thanks.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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"So, what now? Here's what needs to happen to avoid a partial government shutdown

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is expected to schedule a vote Friday to begin debate on the House-passed CR, which includes the $5 billion for the border wall.

To begin debate, McConnell will need 50 senators to vote to advance the measure. But GOP and Democratic sources are skeptical he will get 50 votes, in part, because of absences as well as frustration about the President’s handling of this episode.

If McConnell does get on the bill, he would need 60 votes to break a Democratic filibuster. That means he would need at least nine Democrats to vote to break the filibuster, which will not happen.

At that point, either the two chambers negotiate a compromise with the White House or the House will have to approve the CR that passed the Senate Wednesday night, which does not have $5 billion for the border wall, and send it to Trump for his signature.

Otherwise, a partial shutdown will occur.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...1732461f7b9fd0
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:31 PM
 
Location: FL
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They will of course not blame the demoncrats who are the ones that voted against it-proving that they hate America and our safety (as if we needed further proof)
Trump said he would be “proud to shut down the government for border security.”
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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"So, what now? Here's what needs to happen to avoid a partial government shutdown

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is expected to schedule a vote Friday to begin debate on the House-passed CR, which includes the $5 billion for the border wall.

To begin debate, McConnell will need 50 senators to vote to advance the measure. But GOP and Democratic sources are skeptical he will get 50 votes, in part, because of absences as well as frustration about the President’s handling of this episode.

If McConnell does get on the bill, he would need 60 votes to break a Democratic filibuster. That means he would need at least nine Democrats to vote to break the filibuster, which will not happen.

At that point, either the two chambers negotiate a compromise with the White House or the House will have to approve the CR that passed the Senate Wednesday night, which does not have $5 billion for the border wall, and send it to Trump for his signature.

Otherwise, a partial shutdown will occur.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...1732461f7b9fd0

Obviously there are not 60 votes in the Senate.


This is where Trump needs to shrug and say, "Take it or leave it."


Make the Democrats look unreasonable for refusing to vote for even modest wall funding. And keep the government shut down until those 60 votes materialize. He has the upper hand, he just doesn't realize it.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:35 PM
 
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Default The Art of the Deal: Trump gets his $5.7 billion for border wall approved

Nancy and Chuck go home defeated

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hou...RBap_j6jw6r-HY
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:35 PM
 
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The government being shut down is a crisis for Barack Obama. It is a crisis for Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.


It is not a crisis for Donald Trump.



America can easily function with a shutdown government. This is Trump's leverage. He just doesn't realize it.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:36 PM
 
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Fake news and failed thread.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There is no reason that Democrats should opposed a wall. If Democrats call themselves so called 'progressives' they should be all about limiting illegals coming into our nation.
They aren’t against illegal immigration just the wall as a solution, this should have been done the last two years of it was so important.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Originally Posted by poisonwoodbao View Post
Obviously there are not 60 votes in the Senate.


This is where Trump needs to shrug and say, "Take it or leave it."


Make the Democrats look unreasonable for refusing to vote for even modest wall funding. And keep the government shut down until those 60 votes materialize. He has the upper hand, he just doesn't realize it.
Or, this makes Trump look like the unreasonable one. Sure, shut down the government during the holidays, just so he can get his monument, while he parties at one of his resorts on taxpayer dollars
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by poisonwoodbao View Post
Obviously there are not 60 votes in the Senate.


This is where Trump needs to shrug and say, "Take it or leave it."


Make the Democrats look unreasonable for refusing to vote for even modest wall funding. And keep the government shut down until those 60 votes materialize. He has the upper hand, he just doesn't realize it.
Trump does not have the upper hand. His campaign promise was that Mexico would pay for it not us.
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