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Old 12-22-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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Sounds like 'I'm going to punch you in the face and take your money'. Then ' I won't punch you in the face if you give me your money'.
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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There is nothing more important to America's safety than reducing border crossings by 99% (as happened with the Israel-Egypt Wall).
This isn’t Israel.

Tell me, where do we put the wall on the Rio Grande?
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:07 AM
 
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Well Gee, IF that's true you should be able to explain how a wall would have prevented the 9/11 attacks.
I completely disagree with your 'logic' there.
Not every crime in America can be prevented by a Wall.

Acting ICE Director Thomas Homan said that 89 percent of all illegal immigrants arrested have a criminal record. “That’s nine out of 10,” he said.
And 72 percent of those arrested had criminal convictions, said Homan, who is retiring from his post soon.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...riminal-record
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:10 AM
 
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Dems will never support the Wall as long as Trump is in office because it is the hallmark of Trump's platform and the one thing they will not allow under any circumstances is to let Trump win.
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:13 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I completely disagree with your 'logic' there.
Not every crime in America can be prevented by a Wall.

Acting ICE Director Thomas Homan said that 89 percent of all illegal immigrants arrested have a criminal record. “That’s nine out of 10,” he said.
And 72 percent of those arrested had criminal convictions, said Homan, who is retiring from his post soon.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...riminal-record

OK, let's do it this way.

You made the claim, you justify it.

How many violent deaths caused by individuals in say the last 10 years would have been prevented by a wall vs. how many occurred that a wall would have had no influence on in cases like the Las Vegas shooting?

Can you make your case with FACTS or is it just the PR 'Trump's always right' flak it appears to be?
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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OK, let's do it this way.

You made the claim, you justify it.

How many violent deaths caused by individuals in say the last 10 years would have been prevented by a wall vs. how many occurred that a wall would have had no influence on in cases like the Las Vegas shooting?

Can you make your case with FACTS or is it just the PR 'Trump's always right' flak it appears to be?
Just use your brain.
Illegal Immigrants with Criminal Records (89%) and Criminal Convictions (72%) = Bad = Not Welcome.
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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Dems will never support the Wall as long as Trump is in office because it is the hallmark of Trump's platform and the one thing they will not allow under any circumstances is to let Trump win.

Oh? What about some of the other hallmarks of his platform like the'far better than the ACA' plan he said time after time after time he'd put in place soon after taking office?


BTW, NICE job of conveniently overlooking the fact that the hallmark wall you speak of was also promised as something Mexico would pay for.
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:19 AM
 
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Just use your brain.
Illegal Immigrants with Criminal Records and Criminal Convictions = Bad.

My brain tells me you claim is as yet unsupported by facts.

IOW, your baseless allegation that the wall is the most important thing to the safety of Americans is just that, a baseless allegation and will remain so until you prove it with facts, not idle speculation.
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:20 AM
 
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My brain tells me you claim is as yet unsupported by facts.

IOW, your baseless allegation that the wall is the most important thing to the safety of Americans is just that, a baseless allegation and will remain so until you prove it with facts, not idle speculation.
The ICE stats are all there, undeniable facts.
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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Dems don't want illegals pouring into the country no matter how many times Trump tries to lie about it.
So what exactly have they done or attempted to do to stop it?
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