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Old 12-25-2018, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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But he believes in open borders and helping the poor migrants of the of the world. That more than makes up for millions of acts of Priest Pediphilia
We should air lift all the migrants to Vatican city I am sure that false profit would sing a different tune.
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Old 12-25-2018, 08:08 AM
 
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How many poor people live in the Vatican City?
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Old 12-25-2018, 08:28 AM
 
Location: MD's Eastern Shore
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But building billion-dollar yachts and 20,000 sqft mansions, while others are homeless, obviously isn't the most-efficient use of resources/labor.
I disagree as I have made a comfortable living working on sportfishing yachts for years. And I am only one.

Exactly what is wrong with some rich guy ordering a 4 million dollar yacht (or more)?

That order puts a local boat building company to work (small business)
A couple dozen local laborors are hired for the year or 2 it will take.
The local diesel service center (small business) then sends several employees to work installing the motors
the local electronics store (small business) then sends installers for the electronics
local machine shop custom makes shafts, rudders and turns wheels to spec (small business)
another small business is hired to make the tower
then there are the chairs
then the teak installation

Tackle shop gets thousands of dollars of tackle ordered
Captain gets hired
At least one mate (probably 2 now) gets hired
bait catchers several states away start getting orders for bait
Marina rents out slip, giving a reason to keep dock hands, management, etc employed
Boat needs to be maintained so bottom gets painted yearly, putting several people to work
diver periodically gets used to clean bottom, change out wheels,
yard workers stay employed as somebody needs to operate lift and set blocks when boat is hauled
restaurants and bar get business from crew, clients and owners, usually leaving good tips to the servers
bands are hired to play the bar on weekends

The list goes on and on and on. Isn't materialism and capitalism great. Look at all those small businesses and people getting employed both directly and indirectly because some rich guy wants a boat to show off to his friends and entertain clients with while fishing!

BTW, I couldn't care less what the pope has to say, For all I care he can just sit under that stupid looking hat of his and keep his mouth shut until he dies and some other idiot takes his place!
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Old 12-25-2018, 09:04 AM
 
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I disagree as I have made a comfortable living working on sportfishing yachts for years. And I am only one.

Exactly what is wrong with some rich guy ordering a 4 million dollar yacht (or more)?
Absolutely nothing..........unless that money was derived by the governments socialists economic programs and then that rich guys starts yelling "Socialism" when the poor would like to have a small bit back.
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Old 12-25-2018, 09:20 AM
 
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I do agree with him, although I recognize how wealthy the church is too.
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Old 12-25-2018, 09:21 AM
 
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Absolutely nothing..........unless that money was derived by the governments socialists economic programs and then that rich guys starts yelling "Socialism" when the poor would like to have a small bit back.
This is a good point.
If they got wealthy from starting their own business with their own money, then this is great.

If they got wealthy through corrupt means, like purchasing politicians and getting crony contracts in return, or getting cheap labor from overseas through government H1B, or insider trading or other government policies to favor them and punish everyone else.

Then no, they do not deserve it.
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Old 12-25-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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I do agree with him, although I recognize how wealthy the church is too.
Like Harvey Weinstein lecturing us about the importance of chastity?
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Old 12-25-2018, 09:36 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Have the pope sell off all the wealth the catholic church owns and donate the proceeds. Then, he can talk.
I agree.

That said, buying presents has been reduced to near nothing in our household this year. My son is a poor grad student and I'm helping him so we spent our money on activities instead.

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RCC has no moral compass, OP.

The Pope therefore lacks any credibility. His business' pedophilia massive issues caused the loss of any credibility his role once had.
Absolutely.

I used to like this pope but they hypocrisy of the RCC has overshadowed all else and the Pope is the leader of same. They can stop lecturing the public any day now.
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Old 12-25-2018, 11:05 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Why haven't the Vatican donate all of its wealth instead of using it to pay off all the pedo claims. They can start by curbing all of their workers of their carnal sins.
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Old 12-25-2018, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46676268


I couldn't agree with him more. Shame on the money worshipers, and the worshipers of material satisfaction. I would be happy to sacrifice some of the excess, if it meant underclasses both here and abroad could enjoy consistent meals, basic health care, and the opportunity to work and contribute. These things are far more important than cheap, easily breakable crap that people throw their money away on today.


Consumerism and materialism are one way roads to hell. Our broken society, broken homes, ever rising homelessness, drug addicted culture reflects this. We've forgotten what truly important in life.

I suppose it depends on how one sees it.


Ten + acres of land, 2000+ sq feet of house is an awful lot for one person.


On the other hand, I sit on a heck of a nature preserve that isn't likely to be divided up into 40 or so households.....not until I die, that is.


What is important in life? Humans.....or life?
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