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.. over and over again ' the same bigoted and biased types seek out means to promote inhumanity.... what the heck!!! I certainly hope you some of these biased and bigoted types do not have access to any young people... the young people don't need their minds damaged with the stuff biased and bigoted and self gluttons spew....
America will continue to be America...
America never has been and never will be a Marxist society. Period. Learn to live in the reality of that.
America never has been and never will be a Marxist society. Period. Learn to live in the reality of that.
Yet the Media, Entertainment, Education, Tech Companies, Social Media and the Democrats are pushing us that way. It is tough to resist for many people as after a while you believe what you keep hearing, even though they are lies.
We live in a world of limited resources, in which nations and individuals must make decisions regarding allocation of resources. The US is a wealthy nation, but does not have the resources to support every poor individual in the world. The US-Mexican border is an avenue for the flow of illegal immigrants not only from Mexico, but the rest of the world. To open up the US borders, or limit efforts to maintain our sovereignty, would result in a massive influx of people seeking generous US government benefits intended for its citizens.
So................ to pay for the current tab of $100 billion per year for illegals and the future tab of many more, what specific government benefits would YOU PERSONALLY be willing to give up to pay for the support of the illegals?
Please do not engage in deflection (I agree, like you, that we spend too much on the military). Cuts to US citizens are currently made and will continue to increase to support illegals. Which ones do you no longer desire?
Medicare?
Social Security?
Roads?
Education?
Dams/levees/bridges?
Federal law enforcement?
Food stamps?
This is a strawman argument, because illegals are already leaving in greater numbers than they're entering. You assume a position as fact ("open borders") that isn't true. We simply don't want to waste money on a wall that will have minimal to no effect, when the status quo is working. Those billions could be put to greater societal good than on the Wall.
However, I thought I read somewhere that Trump was reducing his demand to less than $2 billion. Considering that's such a drop in the bucket for our overall budget, I'm not sure it's worth it to have a Mexican standoff (no pun intended) over this issue and keep our government unfunded. If the demand is 1.3 or 1.6 billion, the Dems should just give it to Trump, regardless of the stupidity and wastefulness of this endeavor.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
America never has been and never will be a Marxist society. Period. Learn to live in the reality of that.
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Originally Posted by Pilot1
Yet the Media, Entertainment, Education, Tech Companies, Social Media and the Democrats are pushing us that way. It is tough to resist for many people as after a while you believe what you keep hearing, even though they are lies.
Marxism, you all keep using that word....I do not think it means what you think it means.
Marxism, you all keep using that word....I do not think it means what you think it means.
It means one cannot benefit from one's own initiative and labor. It means part of what one earns is confiscated from one by threat of imprisonment and given to another who hasn't earned it. In other words, forced slavery.
This is a strawman argument, because illegals are already leaving in greater numbers than they're entering. You assume a position as fact ("open borders") that isn't true. We simply don't want to waste money on a wall that will have minimal to no effect, when the status quo is working. Those billions could be put to greater societal good than on the Wall.
However, I thought I read somewhere that Trump was reducing his demand to less than $2 billion. Considering that's such a drop in the bucket for our overall budget, I'm not sure it's worth it to have a Mexican standoff (no pun intended) over this issue and keep our government unfunded. If the demand is 1.3 or 1.6 billion, the Dems should just give it to Trump, regardless of the stupidity and wastefulness of this endeavor.
Marxism, you all keep using that word....I do not think it means what you think it means.
I went to Eastern Europe about a month after German reunification. I’ve seen the effects of Marxism. I am very familiar with it and want none of that.
I went to Eastern Europe about a month after German reunification. I’ve seen the effects of Marxism. I am very familiar with it and want none of that.
I was in East Berlin for several days about 40 years ago. Went through Checkpoint Charlie. Even though it was decades after World War II, the city was still in a state of massive disrepair, and poverty was rampant. Marxism simply does not work. It drags everyone and everything into poverty. I want no part of that, as well.
Incidentally, I accidentally brought DDR currency back into the West, even though foreigners removing DDR currency from the country was strictly verboten. I forgot it was in my pocket, and didn't declare it at the exit (from the DDR) post. Oops.
You mean Federal Development Grants, like the ones Obama squandered on Solyndra. Other than that, the Fed Gov isn't in the habit of cutting checks payable to corporations, unless they've contracted to buy something from them.
Meanwhile, the Fed Gov loads takers EBT cards up with funds to spend every month while not requiring them to do anything productive at all.
Sure. End the Farm Bill. Now. 80% of it goes to fund the Food Stamps program, and its even more than that when the Bill's funding of the free school meals programs is added.
Eliminate ALL of the above. Fund those programs via voluntary donations.
How about we revoke the Trump tax bill give away to corporations and fund their tax breaks with voluntary donations?
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.. over and over again ' the same bigoted and biased types seek out means to promote inhumanity.... what the heck!!! I certainly hope you some of these biased and bigoted types do not have access to any young people... the young people don't need their minds damaged with the stuff biased and bigoted and self gluttons spew.... 
