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CATO also points out that the argument you make is unreasonable because it only counts certain US citizens as "anchor babies" rather than using a generational model that accounts for direct descendants of illegal immigrants and their contributions. Why does the cost of educating the 6-year-old son of an illegal immigrant count against illegal immigrants, but the contributions of a second-generation 25-year-old daughter with 4 illegal immigrant grandparents not count? The answer, of course, is that fairly applying the "citizen anchor babies wouldn't be here if not for the illegal parents" approach would prevent FAIR from reaching a biased, anti-immigrant conclusion.
That's just silly. How many generations do you want to count? Including descendant generations is just a way to obfuscate and muddy the comparison between legal and illegal. Besides, as per my previous post, we can have the benefits of the latter without the burdens of raising the kids of impoverished illegals. Yes, it surely comes as a surprise to you open-border liberals that we can be selective about who we allow in. We can allow in those who will be net contributors and disallow those who will not.
That doesn’t change the economic analysis, though. You’re talking hypothetical conjecture, not real analysis. You can’t categorize these people as illegals for the purpose of calculating cost and then say they’re not illegals for the purpose of calculating contributions.
It absolutely changes the economic analysis. You want to count the contributions of legal residents whose parents were foreign born. We can have those contributions without the costs of raising them.
The fact is that most of them remain net negatives even after they are raised. If they are making under the poverty income threshold they are probably receiving public money and thus a drain.
Where is trump's proposal and cost analysis of the border wall? Does anyone know of one. If not, would a bank loan money to a company that has a half-baked idea such as that trump has?
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The most obvious cost is that of its physical construction. Trump has put the price-tag at $12 billion. Other estimates put it at $285 billion, which could potentially mean that each U.S. taxpayer would have to pay some $900 in new taxes.
These disparate claims appear to reflect different assumptions. Further, many parameters are not yet known, such as what type of wall is to be built in various segments of the border. Parts of the border are not fenced already because the construction costs of a physical barrier due to the terrain, for example, were deemed to be prohibitively high by the George W. Bush administration.
Nor is it clear what the White House bottom line actually includes. Does it incorporate the cost of lawyers to negotiate compensation to landowners for building the wall on their lands in places where terrain does not allow it to be located on the actual border? Does the number include the costs of hiring scores of forensic auditors to determine which remittances to Mexico come from U.S. citizens and which come from undocumented workers?
Recall, Trump’s campaign promise to fund the wall by seizing remittances to Mexico. Depriving Mexico of remittances is bad for the U.S. because it depresses the economy of a principal trading partner and stimulates further illegal migration into the U.S. Moreover, its implementation is both very costly and difficult.
Are there any Trump supporters who aren't mad at him that he isn't making Mexico pay for the wall?
Trump supporters just want the wall built, they don't really care who pays for it. The cost of the wall is nothing compared to the cost of illegal immigration. It would pay for itself the first year.
With that said, the money that backs both parties loves both legal and illegal-immigration, because they love cheap labor. They would import all of central/south America, if they could keep crime under control.
To #1, just ask yourself why a wall with Canada isn't being floated around......
That is an interesting point, but I used to live near the Canadian border and the reality is there are much less illegal crossings from Canada. Plus, the southern border is bringing tremendous more amounts of drugs and crime versus Canada. The southern border should be our priority.
From CBS: "Last year, Border Patrol agents along the northern border apprehended 3,027 people who were in the country illegally. By comparison, agents along the southern border captured more than 300,000."
Why not listen to the Border Patrol agents who actually work on the border, hmmm? President Trump has never gone to a press briefing in the White House but he decided this issue is much too important so, because there was already a meeting with Border Patrol scheduled, he asked them if they'd meet the presstitutes to tell them why we need a border barrier.
I wonder how the opposition media will spin this...
Why not listen to the Border Patrol agents who actually work on the border, hmmm? President Trump has never gone to a press briefing in the White House but he decided this issue is much too important so, because there was already a meeting with Border Patrol scheduled, he asked them if they'd meet the presstitutes to tell them why we need a border barrier.
I wonder how the opposition media will spin this...
Why not listen to the Border Patrol agents who actually work on the border, hmmm? President Trump has never gone to a press briefing in the White House but he decided this issue is much too important so, because there was already a meeting with Border Patrol scheduled, he asked them if they'd meet the presstitutes to tell them why we need a border barrier.
I wonder how the opposition media will spin this...
What you can't make up is the democrats campaigning on building walls and stopping illegal immigrants...
...and totally flip flopping and claiming it's immoral now
Dog & Pony show. Those useful idiots are saying what trump paid them to say.
Trump needs to present a detailed proposal and cost analysis for the wall/fence or whatever he thinks he wants this time.
Trump hasn't done his due diligence on this project before wanting tax payers to shell out billions.
In a report issued in August 2018, GAO reported that CBP had not assessed the costs to build a wall. CBP had taken a look at Trump's design prototypes and prioritized locations for a future wall but stopped there. There's been no analysis of the costs to place the barriers with topography and land acquisition major issues. https://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-18-614
Trump signed an executive order in January 2017 calling for for a comprehensive study to be done within 180 days. It was to include (1) the current state of southern border security, (2) all geophysical and topographical aspects of the southern border, (3) the availability of Federal and State resources necessary to achieve complete operational control of the southern border, and (4) a strategy to obtain and maintain complete operational control of the southern border. Well after the due date, USA Today reported that the Trump Administration never publicly released or was even known to have completed the study. https://www.usatoday.com/border-wall...nce/605855001/
So when Shumer says in December 2018 that Trump's never given Congress a plan for a wall, I tend to believe him. Trump just wants the money for something that he's still flip-flopping on when it comes to the basic design. There is a reason that man went bankrupt so many times. Ironic that he sold himself to the American electorate as a businessman.
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