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Old 12-30-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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Whatever

The point is that no decent parent would put their child through what these POS parents did.

Many have settled in Mexico in the past and are doing fine. Funny how you ignore that fact.

It still stands that if this woman was afraid for her life, she could have asked for asylum in Mexico.

We have Americans who live in gang infested neighborhoods and live in fear. We have Americans who are victims of domestic violence. In some areas, LGBT people still have to fear being attacked. If you think otherwise, then you are either naive or willfully ignorant. Do some googling. Hate crimes against LGBT people still happen in this country.

right back atchya
A "decent" parent would sit around and wait for your first hand assessment of the situation which is placed in your head by the right wing fear mongering propaganda machine and the birther-in-thief. Yes, I get it now.

Have the EBOLA carrying backpacking ISIS terrorists crossed over with the caravan as well? I'll bet you were wringing your hands over that one too.
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:11 PM
 
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Seriously, this is despicable. Republican House, Senate, and President. And somehow Trump thinks he can blame Democrats for children who died under his watch. The buck stops there you whiny child.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...deaths-773686/

In the last 2 years multiple children have died in the governments custody while Trump ran this and his administration started taking MUCH larger numbers of kids. Under Obama in 8 years? ZERO.

Trying to turn this into a "YOU killed the kids, YOU did" is the hallmarks of abusive folks everywhere. Its everyones fault except theirs. Its pathetic.
Another irrational example which proves what we all already know about the left wing mentality. You people produce misery, degradation, and failure because your “cure” to problems ALWAYS lead to the worsening of those problems ... because ... 1) you refuse to acknowledge or take responsibility for ideologically based failures and 2) you’re destined to keep repeating the same failures, over and over, because of number 1.

The reality is, when you hang a huge “open house” sign on your house, and you advertise it on every media platform available ... you’re gonna get a lot of people coming to your house that would have never come without that INVITATION. This is what the left has done regarding illegal immigration.... sanctuary cities ... legal training to illegals for “what to say to authorities when trying to enter this country illegally ( working the asylum angle), the well publicized political embrace of illegals by democrats, as well as direct financial assistance, as was found to have occurred with Beto’s campaign team providing direct financial assistance to the caravan! (None of you want to talk about that blatant misappropriation of campaign funds, or the underlying fraud of assisting foreign nationals in committing criminal trespass.

In the disturbing and sad case of the most recent child death ... this child’s father admitted that the child was ill when they embarked on their long 1000+ mile journey to the US border, including the fact that the child didn’t receive adequate water for days. If a parent in the US were to demonstrate such negligence that directly led to the death of their child, they’d very likely face criminal charges, and jail time. So the primary responsibility lands squarely with the parents, with a measure of responsibility on those who encourage illegals to come here! Based on what has been reported, there could be additional culpability on the part of the hospital that treated and released this child, rather than continuing to treat the child until it was medically safe to do so. The very idea that Border Patrol, ICE, or Trump is responsible, is pure unhinged insanity.
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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President Donald Trump sought to deflect blame for the deaths of two Guatemalan children in U.S. custody by claiming they were "very sick" when they arrived, even though immigration authorities have said both children passed initial health checks.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/article223713975.html
Of course he did. He accepts blame for nothing.

What a mature person would have said is that "we feel great sympathy for the families, and we will investigate how this happened."

That's it--full stop.

Just say something appropriate and shut up. He can't even do that much--and this is why he appears to be a weak, sniveling coward who blames others always. It is compulsive. If this were the CEO of a company, he would either be fired by now, or having a psych eval.
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:23 PM
 
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On average around 1600 American children die every year in foster care, that includes the years that Obama was in office, and Clinton, and Bush and Bush Sr... where's the outrage for those kids?
That doesn't fit the agenda of "orange man bad".
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:32 PM
 
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Border patrol takes kids to the hospital; left rages.
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:34 PM
 
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Absence of empathy causes him to say anything that comes into his head so long as he himself stays on message...blame democrats.
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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It breaks my heart to hear of any child of any color dying. Unfortunately the last one had flu. It kills lots of people young and old and there is a point of no return, even under the best of care. The Texas Tribune has an interesting article; Trump Administration preparing to shelter migrant children on Texas military bases. It goes on to describe that border agents arrested more than 100,000 illegal border crossers in March and April. It's an old article from May, but it illustrates the numbers coming here out of desperation for work and asylum. When you have large populations of people flooding your borders there are going to be casualties. You can turn it into a political football or you can work to deal with it. These deaths are just a victim of circumstance.
One question though. Trump is threatening to shut down the southern border. If he can do that then why does he need the wall? Can he stop everyone from entering or leaving on the southern border?
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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You wouldn't flee violence to save your kids but others choose to do just that.
If that were the case, why didn’t he take the rest of his kids and his wife?
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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It breaks my heart to hear of any child of any color dying. Unfortunately the last one had flu. It kills lots of people young and old and there is a point of no return, even under the best of care. The Texas Tribune has an interesting article; Trump Administration preparing to shelter migrant children on Texas military bases. It goes on to describe that border agents arrested more than 100,000 illegal border crossers in March and April. It's an old article from May, but it illustrates the numbers coming here out of desperation for work and asylum. When you have large populations of people flooding your borders there are going to be casualties. You can turn it into a political football or you can work to deal with it. These deaths are just a victim of circumstance.
One question though. Trump is threatening to shut down the southern border. If he can do that then why does he need the wall? Can he stop everyone from entering or leaving on the southern border?
What kind of question is this? When talking about shutting down the border, he’s talking about the legal official ports of entry. OBVIOUSLY, the same unsecured areas currently exploited by illegals will still exist without securing them with walls.

Now if you would like to ask how shutting down the legal ports of entry might help the situation ... I believe this is a not so subtle call to Mexico to do more to secure their side of the border, and prevent these large groups from reaching and breaching our border. It’s an incentive ... given that shutting down the border effects commerce $$$ ... money talks.
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:53 PM
 
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You wouldn't flee violence to save your kids but others choose to do just that.
That’s just getting very old .... tired, and worn out ....

Mexico has offered asylum to scores of these supposed victims .... and most have refused. Their intent is obviously not to attain safe haven from violence .... but to gain access into the United States.
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