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Old 12-30-2018, 05:12 PM
 
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One more time. Try to address your flat out lies without personal attacks. Read the Mother Jones report.
Excerpt from your Link.

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The perpetrators: More than half of the cases involved school or workplace shootings (12 and 20, respectively); the other 30 cases took place in locations including shopping malls, restaurants, and religious and government buildings. Forty-four of the killers were white males. Only one was a woman.

 
Old 12-30-2018, 05:19 PM
 
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You lose all credibility when you start rambling about white privilege and the GOP supporting white nationalism. Must you extreme leftists making everything about race? America moved on a long time ago, but you continue to live in the past.
you already said you don't watch TV and have no concerns to truly read. Guess the word "Charolettesville" purely escapes you, guess the shooting up of the Jewish Temple fell into Selective Amnesia, Guess the excessive mounting of video captions of people calling the police on people who are minding their own business, to the many videos that have captured people going off on racist rants about minorities and immigrants.....

If denial works for you... that's on you. We know of its prevalence in the past. It's still happening in the Present!!!!
 
Old 12-30-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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There is nothing Trump could do or say that will ever make his base stop supporting him. Nothing. If 100 people like Gen. McCrystal (who today said Trump is immoral and a liar) would say the same, Trump supporters would think Don is the "moral and American" one and the Generals were bad, bad bad.

That's the way Authoritarianism works. Those involved in it will never sway....how many top Catholics in the clergy would leave or say "enough" even if they found out 75% of their peers were molesters? I say very few.
 
Old 12-30-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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Trump is correct. The Democrats (Obama Admin. and 9th Circuit Court) are the creators of the "catch and release" policy for apprehended illegal immigrants accompanied by children.
Prior to this policy less than 3% of illegals apprehended had children with them. Now it is 35%.
The get of jail free card is the incentive, these kids would most likely be left home and still alive otherwise.
 
Old 12-30-2018, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Has Trump "jumped the shark"? You mean, like CNN and MSNBC have?
 
Old 12-30-2018, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Trump jumped the shark about 30 years ago.
 
Old 12-30-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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Trump is right on this issue!
 
Old 12-30-2018, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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I think only when he stops talking about illegal immigrants. If he gets to that point, even the crazies will give up on him. Unless of course he moves onto another minority, like East Indians or Chinese or a middle eastern terrorist attack. (Never a white terrorist attack) The trumpettes hang onto illegal immigration as if theres no one else that they can feel superior to.

Really the elections jumped the shark when he was elected.
You've hit on the key to the whole Trump debacle. There is no one to whom the Trumpists can feel superior. They occupy the lowest echelon of rational thought and personal character. Trump as a rabble-rouser, found his calling in life, although the durability of a regime based on that, is limited and now is unraveling.
 
Old 12-30-2018, 06:20 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Actually, it is democrats/far leftists that have jumped the shark. This officially occurred when liberals began forcing their gender confusion and identity issues on the rest of America. Tranny bathrooms was a push too far, and America pushed back.

Also, wealth inequality exploded under Obama. People are waking up to this reality.

Trump's policies are based on common sense, true equality, and the idea that government is supposed to work for the citizens, not illegal aliens and not businesses that demand illegal workers. Trump also displays tremendous courage and willingness to dig in and fight the good fight. Trump's policies are backed by reality and common sense, while leftists policies are backed by fantasy and BS.

God bless America, and god bless America for fighting back against tyranny and bloated government!
As a moderate Democrat, I actually agree with SOME of what you say. Yes, the gender confusion was shoved down people's throats--I agree. And the bathroom issues are silly--I agree.

No, I do not agree with Trump because he really has no plan and he doesn't really care. He just tells the people whatever they want to hear. They keep falling for it. That's all it is.

I totally agree with what he says about illegals. It's gone on for way too long. Other countries that have taken in too many illegals have learned the lesson. It puts too much of a strain on the system. We have to help our own citizens and we cannot take in the entire world. This has to stop.

Probably there are some extreme leftists who want illegals, but the majority of Americans are against it.
Walls, fences, cameras, guards, etc.--we could use it all. Not just a wall--we need to think this through and figure out the best solution. A simple wall is not enough. The UK and France have just increased the security of their borders, but it's easier because they don't have thousands of miles to cover. Canada is very strict about immigration. Legal=fix it and let people come in if they qualify. Illegal=needs to stop.
 
Old 12-30-2018, 06:24 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Trump's absolutely not to blame for these deaths. First and foremost, it was their own countries situations as these people were probably not immunized and never received proper care so they probably would have died anyway.

Secondly, don't know how many times I need to point this out, but its their own illegal parents who brought them on this criminal journey and exposed them to the elements. So if anyone's to blame its their parents!!!! These parents engaged in negligent parenting and child abuse and wanted to use these kids as bargaining chips to stay in our country. I come from a LEGAL immigrant family. So NO, no sympathy .
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