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Well, it sure won't be the Trump supporters who have ballooned the deficit to ungodly amounts WHILST he promoted socialism in the form of massive bailouts.
They republicans dont really support socialism. Just out of control spending.
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Republicans are NOT and never have been the 'party of small government'. The pretense is over.
Agreed. People need to stop saying they are the party of conservativism. There are some but the party isn't.
My post more or less went to the core of what an American is. Democrats tend to not have a problem with those who do not look like them, where as many republicans do.
That's just something you made up and have no proof. Your big government policies are failures so you falsely play the race card.
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But out of curiosity, what big government policy are Dems responsible for that has destroyed this country ?
EPA, Dept of Education, the military industrial complex (when a dem is in the white house) to name a few.
Out of curiosity, what big government policy has worked?
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Seems to me in the grand scheme of things, America is fine, regardless of flawed republican policies
Fine? lol Thanks for proving my point.
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"america for americans" is an argument for retaining the republic, that doesnt make it good.
Well, Patrick Shanahan, a guy who has never served in the military and has little experience in military affairs, has the job now.
He is far from the first civilian who's held the position.
Of the living former Secretaries:
Rumsfeld- WWII veteran
Brown- never officially served, but was instrumental in the design of the small nuke warheads used in our Navy, and spent much time as a civilian aboard subs and surface ships as an advisor/engineer/ liason.
Cheney- never served
Perry- WWII veteran
Cohen- never served
Gates- never served in the military, but was in the CIA
Panetta- Vietnam veteran
Hagel- Vietnam veteran
Carter- never served
Those who never served typically had careers that had something to do with defense. Few did not.
Of them all, Brown had by far the most nuclear weaponry knowledge and experience. He is considered to be a nuclear genius by his contemporaries who made some major breakthroughs in warhead design and technology.
Of them all, Gates has the strongest background in guerrilla wars and tactics.
He spent quite a lot of time in the CIA, where he eventually became director of Intelligence. He was there during the beginnings of the radical Muslim movements that arose after the fall of the Shaw of Iran, the time the radicalism first began in strength.
Other former Secretaries often had never served in the military, but had long diplomatic careers, careers in the defense industry, communications, and the auto industry.
Few were ever Commanding Generals like Mattis. George Marshall was one, and he was quite probably the best Secretary of State of the 20th century as a result of his military experience. The Marshall Plan prevented the beginnings of a 3rd wold war starting in Europe 20 years after the end of WWII.
Marshall saw the conditions in Europe were almost identical after the end of WWII to what they had been when WWI ended, and his plan was designed to stop those conditions from flourishing once more.
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That's just something you made up and have no proof. Your big government policies are failures so you falsely play the race card.
What ever you say buddy. Remember, you responded to my post, not the other way around. No one mentioned big government except you.
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EPA, Dept of Education, the military industrial complex (when a dem is in the white house) to name a few.
Out of curiosity, what big government policy has worked?
None of the things you mentioned have destroyed America, some of them arent even the creation of Dems.
by the way, the Constitution itself is big government. The articles of confederation were exactly what it says. 13 colonies working together. More like the EU than the US.
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Fine? lol Thanks for proving my point.
If your point was admitting you were wrong, then you are welcome.
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Your comment doesn't make sense.
You cant love America, but hate its people. Thats what it means. Conservatives who say America was better when black people knew their place , gay people still hid in society, and latinos only worked in the fields seem to believe they are trying to "retain the republic" by taking use back to the post war 1950's America.
So the dems love America yet they destroy it with big government policies that fail? Yea that makes sense. The question isn't who loves America, the question is who will fight to retain the republic?
Actually, all politicians in DC push for big government.
And your comment that Republicans don’t push socialism? When did the Republicans speak out against these huge billion dollar farm subsidies of late?
I would have voted for Jim Webb for president. If Jim Webb had been the DNC candidate against Trump, I would have voted for Jim Webb. But Jim Webb is an old school Democrat; loves America and doesn't hate himself for being White. He wouldn't/didn't have a chance in Today's DNC.
We could do worse for a Secretary of Defense. I think he would be a fair choice.
I liked him in the primary season but I supported a Republican.
The DNC is responsible for putting forth generalized beliefs( the party platform), but it is obvious that candidates and elected officials can hold other beliefs. , so no, you are being far more disingenuous than you are claiming I was.
You are being even more disingenuous, now. Of course, no one argues that the DNC literally commands candidates to take certain positions. However, they hold enormous sway in being able to limit the fundraising abilities of candidates who stray from party orthodoxy.
Beyond this point, do you think a party is healthier when it has a diversity of opinions on various key issues or is a party generally healthier when it is more monolithic on key issues?
I've always liked Jim Webb. I don't care who he supports or what political party he identifies with, I only know I want him in a leadership position in government.
I would have voted for Jim Webb for president. If Jim Webb had been the DNC candidate against Trump, I would have voted for Jim Webb. But Jim Webb is an old school Democrat; loves America and doesn't hate himself for being White. He wouldn't/didn't have a chance in Today's DNC.
Webb was either a congressman or senator from Virginia. Believe it or not he ran for President briefly as a democrat in 2016. For what ever reason he couldn't get traction with the media. He was a moderate who noted that because of outsourcing, his brother in law was put out of work. Maybe that's all it took to scare off his rich moderate and rich liberal supporters. I've always thought of the rich whether they are left or right as horns on the same bull.
The media moves in very suspicious ways. Sanders was gaining momentum but lost the primaries because of super delegates. Hillary won the Dem. nomination because it was her turn. That's confusing. Webb gets an interview for what seems to be five minutes, and no one pays attention to him after that. Imagine how a moderate democrat from Virginia might break up the right wing electoral lock on the South. Damned confusing.
As far as Webb working for Trump, why take a job that will last for ten weeks.
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