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Old 01-01-2019, 10:21 AM
 
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This is a major pillar? It's underwhelming if it is, considering. Did I miss where the rest of "TrumpCare" was laid out? The cheaper and better plan that covered all?
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Old 01-01-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Ok.

So, you’re going to diagnose yourself and then shop around for a hospital. Got it.

I can just picture an acute MI, a brain attack, a triple A, etc, comparing prices. Oh yeah.
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Old 01-01-2019, 10:26 AM
 
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Under the Affordable Care Act, hospitals were requried to release public price lists, but from the start of 2019 they will be expected to place these online in a format that can be loaded on computers. These figures must be updated every year.
So the Trumpistas are banging their chests over the implementation of a policy that originated in Commiefornia and was part of the ACA? That's funny.
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Old 01-01-2019, 10:32 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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This is a major pillar? It's underwhelming if it is, considering. Did I miss where the rest of "TrumpCare" was laid out? The cheaper and better plan that covered all?
You missed everything. Or perhaps you just missed the second week of class in the 7th grade where the rest of us learned how congress works.
More likely, you conveniently pretend to forget that it takes 60 votes to get major bills through congress. That way you can pretend that Democrats did not stop meaningful bills from getting passed.


No matter. The cat is out of the bag. Obamacare was passed and now there must forever be a bill to replace it - even though Obamacare itself did not replace a bill. There must now forever be a "Presidentcare" bill designed to accommodate every eventuality. The government is in the healthcare business and will never leave.
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Old 01-01-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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That's great!

You need hart valve replacement?

Would you like continuous heart monitoring or should a nurse just check in once a day to see if you are still alive?


You want pain medicine? That's extra.


Clean sheets? You guessed it! That's extra too.


Food brought to your room?


A cup of ice?


An on demand call bell?


A TV in your room?

Sorry … all that is extra.
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Old 01-01-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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You missed everything. Or perhaps you just missed the second week of class in the 7th grade where the rest of us learned how congress works.
More likely, you conveniently pretend to forget that it takes 60 votes to get major bills through congress. That way you can pretend that Democrats did not stop meaningful bills from getting passed.


No matter. The cat is out of the bag. Obamacare was passed and now there must forever be a bill to replace it - even though Obamacare itself did not replace a bill. There must now forever be a "Presidentcare" bill designed to accommodate every eventuality. The government is in the healthcare business and will never leave.
That repeal and replace nonsense? That wasn't what he promised, either. I wish politicians wouldnt make such grandiose promises when yes, there's the whole Congress passing things part, but then I guess it wouldn't be politics.

I dont care what party makes it happen. I belong to neither and feel they both need to go. Just tired of how healthcare happens in this country.

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Old 01-01-2019, 11:39 AM
 
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I’ve been told by medical staff that hospitals would go broke with all the illegals, the drug addicts, and various gang bangers they have to treat for free if they don’t pass exorbitant expenses on to the rest of us.
Possibly in a few locales without Medicaid expansion. There are central subsidies if the hospital hands out too much free care.

The costs of free care are not so easily passed onto those with insurance coverage. The hospitals simply take in less revenue, and then try to raise rates with 3rd parties for next year...
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Old 01-01-2019, 12:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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That's great!

You need hart valve replacement?

Would you like continuous heart monitoring or should a nurse just check in once a day to see if you are still alive?


You want pain medicine? That's extra.


Clean sheets? You guessed it! That's extra too.


Food brought to your room?


A cup of ice?


An on demand call bell?


A TV in your room?

Sorry … all that is extra.

you forgot "did you have any checked bags?"
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Old 01-01-2019, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Boston
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after Obama destroyed some many millions of people's health care with his disaster, Obamacare, the last people that need to be voicing their opinions on healthcare are the Democrats.
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Old 01-01-2019, 12:34 PM
 
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If this is a major pillar of Trumpcare, we are screwed. How is posting Hospital prices helpful at all? There’s what, two or three hospitals per city in most of the US. Don’t like one price while you are standing around in the emergency room with your broken arm, what’s the alternative? Go across town to the other Hospital posting the same price? If you think the Hospitals won’t coordinate to fix their prices, you’re crazy.
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