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Old 01-03-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Originally Posted by NJmann View Post
Why do people who oppose the border wall’s $5 billion spending to help this country, yet supports the billions and billions of money sent to Israel and other foreign countries every year?! Cut foreign aid and spend the money instead in this country to protect ourselves! Why help foreign countries support and so-called protect themselves but not us?!
One of these things is not like the other.

 
Old 01-03-2019, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Where there is a Will there is a "Wall".



The Dems used to want a wall and even Obama told us how important border security is but what happened?



They are willing to send 10 billion to Mexico to help them but we can't spend 5 to protect America?



Here is an idea give the 10 to Mexico with the addendum that they use up to half of it to build a wall on their Northern border and the other half for their Southern border. They can build for less due to cheap labor and we can patrol it.

The only thing that is going to stop caravans from poor countries to the South moving through Mexico and into America is a wall.



What is the price of a human life? The Dems tell us a child "immigrants" life is priceless but they don't seem to care that much about American citizens and Legal immigrants that are harmed or killed by Illegal aliens?


Sad.


Where there is a Will there is a Wall.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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This is a self-perpetuating argument. You can bicker until kingdom come but the facts remain that Pelosi and Schumer, both of whom live behind a wall, won't give in because it's Donald Trump who wants it. It's as simple as that.

Congress could find $5 billion in their sofa cushions, and lord knows they've piddled away lots more than that on some really dumb things. It isn't about the money. It's about the left being stubborn and obstructionist.

They will tell you they're all about border security while at the same time promoting sanctuary cities and states that provide safe haven for cop killers and every other scum of the earth migrant the comes here illegally.

Their idea of border security is a few drones and some extra patrol agents, but if you ask the Border Patrol they want the wall. If the left can protect the illegals, they should be for protecting the lives of the boots on the ground that defend the border.

For every argument they make against the wall, there are 10 arguments in favor of it, but the bottom line is it's all about politics.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 09:58 AM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Originally Posted by NJmann View Post
Why do people who oppose the border wall’s $5 billion spending to help this country, yet supports the billions and billions of money sent to Israel and other foreign countries every year?! Cut foreign aid and spend the money instead in this country to protect ourselves! Why help foreign countries support and so-called protect themselves but not us?!
I’m liberal and don’t support either


Mind....



Blown.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
Wanting a secure border is an antic to you guys?
When did I say that? And who are ‘you guys’?

Shutting down the government because he didn’t get his way certainly is an antic, though.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Originally Posted by Joe the Photog View Post
Get uit right. People oppose the wall more than the money itself. That 5 billion dollars could go a long way helping the right agencies find people overstaying their visas. You can be for better border patrol and be against the wall. It's even possible to not be against the wall in theory, but understand that building it and all the legalities involved with acquiring land in spots is going to be hard and expensive.

Also, not everyone against the wall is for giving foreign aid to anyone. It would be better if you knew someone had come out against the wall also came out in support of foreign aid. Otherwise, yu're talking about a hypothetical creature. Like a unicorn, perhaps.
you mean ICE?


I thought the same people who are against the wall are also for AbolishICE movement?
 
Old 01-03-2019, 10:07 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by Camaro5 View Post
This is a self-perpetuating argument. You can bicker until kingdom come but the facts remain that Pelosi and Schumer, both of whom live behind a wall, won't give in because it's Donald Trump who wants it. It's as simple as that.

Congress could find $5 billion in their sofa cushions, and lord knows they've piddled away lots more than that on some really dumb things. It isn't about the money. It's about the left being stubborn and obstructionist.

They will tell you they're all about border security while at the same time promoting sanctuary cities and states that provide safe haven for cop killers and every other scum of the earth migrant the comes here illegally.

Their idea of border security is a few drones and some extra patrol agents, but if you ask the Border Patrol they want the wall. If the left can protect the illegals, they should be for protecting the lives of the boots on the ground that defend the border.

For every argument they make against the wall, there are 10 arguments in favor of it, but the bottom line is it's all about politics.

The head of the Border Patrol union wants a wall in "strategic locations", NOT 'the great wall of America.'

https://www.npr.org/2017/01/26/51174...mps-wall-plans

Let Trump make good on his frequently stated promise of Mexico paying for the wall, of let him publicly admit he's just a typical lying politician despite all claims to the contrary.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 01:38 PM
 
62,931 posts, read 29,126,415 times
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Originally Posted by johnp292 View Post
When did I say that? And who are ‘you guys’?

Shutting down the government because he didn’t get his way certainly is an antic, though.

And how many other times has the government been shut down? Why is it an antic this time around? You guys are those of you who are anti-wall and anti-Trump, duh.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 01:45 PM
 
Location: North America
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Trump released a statement through Twitter, describing the deal...
Hey, I have some pasture land in the Everglades to sell you.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 01:49 PM
 
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Trump released a statement through Twitter, describing the deal...
In my experience, well-thought through plans concerning complex issues of public policy, particularly when they involve a great deal of international wrangling with foreign countries over budgetary issues and trade deals, are easily spelled out in a 280 character tweet.
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