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Old 01-15-2019, 08:59 PM
 
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So you think Pelosi and Schumer are stuck on the point that Mexico won't pay for the wall? Not true, they want open borders so they are delighted Mexico won't pay.
Individual 1 lies and lies. It's foolish to blame Democrats because Individual 1 had 2 years before the Democrats took the house to get it done. He knew this would happen just like he knew Mexico wasn't paying for a wall and there is no border crisis. He conned his base. It's that simple and he knows it. Ask the many college students and charities he ripped off. The Blue Wave happened in 2018 for a reason. No more cons.

 
Old 01-15-2019, 09:13 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Trump will build it even if he has to declare a national emergency.
Pelosi is hoping that Trump does just that because she thinks she can stop him in court. And she may be right, but if she does stop him in court Americans will turn on Pelosi and the Democrats like a Pitt Bull.
2020 would become Pelosi's worst nightmare.
 
Old 01-16-2019, 05:21 AM
 
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41 Senators who are holding out for border wall funding, and those who have not made clear where they stand. Are they fearful of Individual 1? 4 Reopen without funding, 2 temporarily reopen and 6 deal protecting undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children. It looks like Individual 1 doesn't have the hardcore support he thought he would have with his party.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.37bb2f93f7eb
McConnell doesn't have the votes which is why he won't let the Senate vote on the House bills.

Meanwhile, no one with any sense is buying Trump's lies about the "crisis" at the border, and each day that passes undermines his claim to a "national emergency."

What a cluster duck.
 
Old 01-16-2019, 05:55 AM
 
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So you think Pelosi and Schumer are stuck on the point that Mexico won't pay for the wall? Not true, they want open borders so they are delighted Mexico won't pay.

Funny that back in 2006 when the actual wall bill passed signed by both Schumer and Obama there was no outrage over the taxpayer funding it. The Democrats in congress had no problem with that nor mainstream Democrats either. Now they object to it unless Mexico pays for it? Hmm.


Trump does have a plan to make Mexico involuntarily pay for it and even if the taxpayer had to fund it it's still a lot cheaper than the over $100 billion a year that illegal aliens cost us so I don't know why these Democrats in congress and mainstream Democrats are crying about the cost. It makes no sense at all.
 
Old 01-16-2019, 06:00 AM
 
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Funny that back in 2006 when the actual wall bill passed signed by both Schumer and Obama there was no outrage over the taxpayer funding it. The Democrats in congress had no problem with that nor mainstream Democrats either. Now they object to it unless Mexico pays for it? Hmm.


Trump does have a plan to make Mexico involuntarily pay for it and even if the taxpayer had to fund it it's still a lot cheaper than the over $100 billion a year that illegal aliens cost us so I don't know why these Democrats in congress and mainstream Democrats are crying about the cost. It makes no sense at all.
It makes sense when you look at the end game. They know the wall would work. There are walls everywhere and it proves they work. George Soros has a 10 foot concrete wall around his house. They are stalling because they don't want to build the wall in time for 2020 because if it is, it will show the illegal crossings way down and prove Trump right. THAT's the end game here.
 
Old 01-16-2019, 07:27 AM
 
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Gee, you don’t remember your own post? I wonder why.....

Oh:



So yea, Chuck, where am I arguing “other numbers”? And furthermore, I never “stated I was only talking about the OP’s numbers”...please point that out else you’re flat out lying.


LOL..that was easy...




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It’s the logically consistent answer. There’s no “proof” either way with the basic numbers provided in the original post.

Are you sure you did not have an ample amount of beers last night?
 
Old 01-16-2019, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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How long do you think our government will need to be shutdown before Mexico ponies up the money for the wall?
 
Old 01-16-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: AZ
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LOL..that was easy...







Are you sure you did not have an ample amount of beers last night?
Are you still drinking?

The original post I quoted.....


And you’ve yet to point out where in my post post I’m “arguing other numbers”.

Keep on lying, Chuck.
 
Old 01-16-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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How long do you think our government will need to be shutdown before Mexico ponies up the money for the wall?
Good question.
 
Old 01-16-2019, 09:00 AM
 
Location: My House
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It's needed but IMO those who don't want a barrier on their properties can just deal with the illegal trespassers, criminals and drug runners who will just funnel right through their properties then. They'd be crying for a wall in no time.
Why is it our job to protect private property from trespassers of any kind?
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