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They all see their little portions. And their little portions make up the entire length.
And the BP reports back to one person on what they have seen, which gives them the entire picture, not a single sheriff perspective of what he thinks is going the entire length of the border.
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I didn't say Trump said it would stop immigration. Maybe you should quote me more accurately.
Your quote is below....you said stop, not partially, nothing. You gave an absolute.
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I have a problem with Trump's rhetoric that somehow a wall is going to stop illegal immigration, since his own government's facts show that the majority of illegal immigrants come here legally, and overstay their visas.
And go back and comprehend what I wrote.....I also said "or who has said that?"
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In the meantime, it appears the government will be re-opening, people will get paid, and negotiations can proceed. Hopefully, negotiations will yield a long-term deal.
Well the way I see it is that we have an internal problem with our laws. Walls are breach able and they won't stop someone from coming either over, under, or around. We have border fencing and barriers, every president has built them. Has it stopped people from coming here? No it hasn't. They come for the jobs provided to them by businesses that want cheap labor. They in turn contribute to our economy. Eleven million illegal immigrants contribute an estimated 11.64 billion in state and local taxes, on average 8% of their income. Source The Institute of Taxation and Economic Policy.
Does the wall stop drugs from crossing into our country through the ten ports of entry between Mexico and the USA with millions of un-screened trucks that come through? No it doesn't.
Does a wall stop people from coming here through over stayed visas from all countries? No it doesn't. So we have an internal problem.
What we have on the border now is a humanitarian crisis. Like it or not, our laws dictate that anyone can come here and ask for asylum. Is a wall going to stop that. No it isn't.
Does land seizure through eminent domain hurt American's? Yes it does. Emotional thinkers would like nothing more than to erect a wall across the entire border, thus giving the Rio Grand to the Mexican's and all of those tourist dollars that goes with it.
Build the wall is nothing more than rube rhetoric for emotional thinkers that want to wallow in hate. The bottom line is that the politicians don't want to stop illegal immigration. Follow the money. Cheap labor is a commodity.
Every lame excuse has been debunked over and over and yet they come back in here day after day like a bunch of parrots repeating the same old nonsense ad nauseum.
Every lame excuse has been debunked over and over and yet they come back in here day after day like a bunch of parrots repeating the same old nonsense ad nauseum.
Actually no, that really hasnt been debunked.
Mandatory E-verify. Tell me why its not a good choice?
haven't heard much about this, would have thought we'd have a fence or at least a line in the sand to let people know they are getting too close and to report in at the appropriate check-point to proceed.
A large portion of the border falls in the Rio Grande River.
How does one go about delineating that?
There is Indian land that stretches from the U.S. into Mexico.
Again, how should that be delineated?
The issues that caused the Secure Fence Act of 2006 to be revisited and re-legislated in 2007 still apply. If the OP is really interested in answers, research into that would be a good place to start.
Putting politics aside, I can see how we, as a country, can benefit with having a border wall.
For those who are against it how do we benefit by not having a wall?
1. Eminent domain, generally a bad idea. Seizing the property of those who own 2/3 of the border through Texas is not going to go well. We are still seeing eminent domain grabs from the last fence project 8 years ago going through the court now.
2. Along the Rio Grande, a wall, fence, whatever will have serious implications for the flood plain and can result in worse flash flooding and issues for farmers/ranchers.
3. Ecological impacts. Numerous and varied but this could mitigated to a large degree by incorporating corridor technology into fence designs where appropriate but it would be expensive.
4. Mostly I am against the notion of "THE" wall. Physical barriers in some areas maybe warranted, other areas maybe not. A border that is nearly 2000 miles long should not be treated as a simplistic one size fits all item. Each segment should be treated in the best way that suits the needs of the community, the topography, the needs of DHS and the border patrol and so on.
A large portion of the border falls in the Rio Grande River.
How does one go about delineating that?
There is Indian land that stretches from the U.S. into Mexico.
Again, how should that be delineated?
The issues that caused the Secure Fence Act of 2006 to be revisited and re-legislated in 2007 still apply. If the OP is really interested in answers, research into that would be a good place to start.
It wasn't revised due to anything you are claiming.
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