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I will point out that Republican House member William Hurd represents the 23rd Congressional District of Texas. This district covers 820 miles of the Texas/Mexico border. See the map here:
BINGO. That's why the $1.3 Bil agreed to for border security is sufficient.
The $1.3 Bil was agreed to by the House, the Senate and Donald Trump. Then Rush Limbaugh and Coulter made a stink, Trump got scared, and he reneged on the deal. I'm sorry but Rush Limbaugh does not decide government policy in this country.
Just because Limbaugh and Coulter offered their opinion on this matter doesn't mean that is what Trump based his decision on and unless you have proof of that I suggest you stop the stupid implications. Trump certainly isn't listening to the Democrats on this matter he's sticking to what he believes in. $1.3 billion isn't what Trump asked for and that's why he turned it down.
Walls are a very effective deterrant. Are they 100% effective? No, but they deter most illegal/unwanted entry. I have posted several links proving that the good walls have been very effective on our border. In one place it has deterred illegal entry by 90% but that's not good enough for you? Even the Border Patrol and Homeland Security say they work and that we need them. Do you know better than them?
If walls aren't an effective deterrant then why do we have them around our homes and businesses? What fools you lefties are!
Wrong! Most illegals in our country were border jumpers. We still have thousands sneaking over our border every month. Stop deflecting with the visa over stayers that's a separate problem that will have to be dealt with in a different way. The wall is for the border jumpers, duh!
Not all illegals are coming here to work. Certainly criminals, the drug runners and those from known terrorist countries aren't. We'd have to deny their kids our birthright citizenship and benefits also just removing the job incentive alone won't do it all on its own.
Fools? Is that what you are calling the Border Patrol and Homeland Security that want the good walls because they have already proven to work? I have also posted many links proving that the good walls in place already have been very effective. Those who don't want a wall on their properties can just deal with all the above on their own as they will all just funnel right through their properties. They'll be crying for a wall in no time.
Did you tell congress back in 2006 that passed the actual wall bill that it was only a symbolism? Are you not aware that both Schumer and Obama signed that bill?
And lastly, you'd rather continue paying the over $100 billion a year that illegal aliens cost us rather than the one time cost of a $25 billion wall?
Holy smokes. You are so wrong. Incredibly wrong. Uninformed, even. Here's a great idea: Actually read about an issue before ranting on about it.
If there are no jobs for illegals, the flow is reduced to a trickle. It's pretty simple. As far as the drug trade is concerned, most of the drugs come in via trucks or boats. Speedboats have become the chief method.
But even then, raising the issue of the drug trade actually reinforces my point, not yours. If you eliminate the economic reward for illegal immigration, then you allow border control to actually concentrate its efforts on true threats such as coke smuggling, rather than stop someone coming up from Guatemala to come here to work as a custodian for $10 an hour.
But, no, you'd rather take the bait and choose the least effective solution.
What he said is accurate and if you doubt it, do your own fact checking - it's not like any of it was some kind of obscure minutiae that you would never find during a google search.
Yeah, imagine him being impeached for securing the border.
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That's perfectly logical thinking if you're one of the lefty loons in this forum.
Actually it’s perfectly logical obfuscation of the real situation if you’re one of the RWNJ Trumpists who frequent this forum, but whose numbers seem to be dwindling.
Meanwhile, in the real world, Mexico AND the United States refused to pay for the wall and the US government has been in partial shutdown 14 days, 11 hours, 41 minutes, and 35 seconds.
What he said is accurate and if you doubt it, do your own fact checking - it's not like any of it was some kind of obscure minutiae that you would never find during a google search.
I did do my own fact-checking. You should try it. The assertion IN THE MEME is inconclusive.
People should have known that Trump would "manufacture" some media dominating scenario to take the media's attention away from telling the people of his vile and corrupt history, his obstruction of justice, his acts of supervision, and the treasonous acts he has engage in his love and obsession with money.
This government shut down is nothing more than an attempt at "misdirection of media focus", and yet another aim at creating a dominating distraction, trying to prolong the aims and efforts to take the attention from the fact he is a treasonous mob figures, who has conspired against America, America's Allies and sided with Putin and any other Dictator and Authoritarian figure he can. Temporarily, it distracts from the Saudi Prince, it distracts from the Malice against our Allies he has provoked and instigated, it distracts from the damages that his manufactured trade war has created and the losses it has cost this nation, it has distracted from the vile glutton of his sons and the deceptive greed of his daughter, and even the do nothing stature of his wife, who aids and abets this mob based madness. WE WILL NOT BE DISTRACTED
DO NOT LOSE FOCUS.... !!!! The Federal Employees do not support this insidious deceptive gamesmanship by a thug in our office of the Presidency. As said in another post.... "The people will not remain silent when the pay checks don't show up... their lives are supported by the work they do to service the people of this nation. Never underestimate the dedicated works of the employee ranks of the Federal Government. They come to work out of respect for this nation and the care and concerns of their family. The Federal Employees will speak out and speak up against being used and played as pawns by a mobster driven mad man, of a mission of greed and the promotions of divisiveness by the aims to denigrate the mexican people by trying to pander to the group of racist bigots who are desperate for someone to look down upon.
These Republican, Right Wingers have proven they will do anything to try and prop up their consumption with racist ignorance and the vain hope of pushing a racist white nationalism.
DO NOT take your focus and attention from the Incitement, the disclosure made by the Guilty Plea's and Do Not become distracted from the treasonous acts and conduct that is exposed and Do Not give a pass to any of the Right Winger Republicans in the Congress and the Malice they have vowed to support and endorse.
We've seen too much of the game of distraction... because the Media gets distracted, and caught in the spin and omit to manage their programming to have segments that each deal with aspects of the madness, where they let all segments get misled into focus on the same distraction of the moment.
We will get media as well that knows how to divide and manage their segments, to keep focus on various aspects of the vile being done.
There will become a front runner in the media who will use... these hour segments, not to repeated the same disclosures of madness in all settlement , but, utilize each separate one hour -spent on each element of the vile being done. This will dawn on the Media Exec's as they learn how not to be used in the mis-direction games of focusing only on the latest antics.
DO NOT take your focus and attention from the Incitements and the continuing investigation.
We all know Mexico will NEVER pay a penny toward a wall... America will not be held hostage to feed the need of the bigoted and racist driven Right Wing and their desperate need to create fiction in hopes to have Mexicans, as someone to look down upon
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Trump certainly isn't listening to the Democrats on this matter he's sticking to what he believes in. $1.3 billion isn't what Trump asked for and that's why he turned it down.
Even the Border Patrol and Homeland Security say they work and that we need them. Do you know better than them? 
