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Old 01-04-2019, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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A 17 story building collapses in Tehran in ~12 seconds (my count). It crumbles unevenly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvnqDn6HZZw

47 story wtc7 collapses in 7 seconds. If it looks like control demotion, and falls like control demolition, it is control demolition.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMUR1zAcB6Q

Are you a structural engineer with experience in building demolition ? If not, you are simply assuming, and you know what they say about ass u mi ng, don't you ?
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Here is Silverstein himself saying it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq-0JIR38V0

He says "the smartest thing to do is pull it.....and they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

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Im surprised that Larry Silverstein video is still accessible online!
Why? No matter how many times you post it, it still doesn't mean what you want it to mean. It is ridiculous to keep trying to make a case for this. Larry isn't the best-loved man in NYC. Real people in the real world would have jumped all over this, especially with the legal battles between SPI and the PA in the years to follow.

I'll take the word of FDNY and the engineers who were actually there over YouTube videos and an imagination. Methinks too much TV and too many movies is having an effect on common sense.
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:11 AM
 
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If it looks like control demotion, and falls like control demolition, it is control demolition.
Ain't that the Truther philosophy in a nutshell? "This thing looks like this other thing, it follows they are the same thing."
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:12 AM
 
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certainly was NOT a cd...any one who states it was a CD, has no idea what a cd is
"But it looked like one!"
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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Wow, what a nothingburger LOL
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Old 01-04-2019, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Wow, what a nothingburger LOL
Haha, more like a nut burger.
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Old 01-04-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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Funny how the uneducated skeptics are dismissing experts' opinions based on facts, not feeeeeeelings.

Nothing wrong with the truth being revealed, is there? Don't pay and see what they release, if anything. Let's see who was involved.
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Old 01-04-2019, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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There was no secret conspiracy concerning 9/11.
You cannot state that with any certainty, because no criminal investigation by any federal, State or local law enforcement agency was ever conducted.

Note that pursuant to FAA regulations, and National Transportation Safety Board rules and regulations, aircraft must be reconstructed.

If you want to see the 8-Ball (TWA Flight 800), it's still sitting in a warehouse in New Jersey. As much of it as possible was reconstructed after the incident.

Granted, I wouldn't expect it possible to reconstruct the two aircraft that struck the Towers, but there was no excuse whatsoever to not reconstruct Fights 77, which struck the Pentagon or Flight 93 which "crashed" -- or as Rumsfeld said..."Was shot down."

Rumsfeld clearly and unmistakably states on video that Flight 93 was "shot down."

If Flight 93 crashed as claimed, then why would Rumsfeld state it was "shot down?"

Several witnesses relate that a lieutenant (I don't recall the branch of service) asked Cheney twice, "Sir, does the order still stand?"

What "order?"

Neither witnesses nor anyone else understand the context of the question, but if the context was an order to shoot down Flight 93 before it could strike the White House or Capitol Building, then the context is clear.

If you examine all of the data and evidence, you'll note that the port engine was not located at the crash site, rather it was a significant distance away.

That is wholly consistent with an F-16 Falcon from Langley Air Force Base, Virginia, which we know for a fact that two were in the air and in proximity to Flight 93, firing an AIM-9 heat-seeking air-to-air missile which struck the port engine, separating it from the pylon.

With the exception of the Boeing 707, civilian aircraft are not capable of flying inverted, nor are they capable of rolling more than 80° off the horizontal, and if they do, they flip completely over, enter a spin and nose-dive into the earth.

If you want to see how that works, you can look at Copas Airlines Flight 201. It had a faulty attitude indicator, which caused the pilot to believe he was in level flight, when in fact he was already 60° off, so when he banked the plane to return to the airport and make an emergency landing, he unwittingly rolled the plane past 80° and flipped the plane over, causing it to enter a spin and nose-dive into the mountains.

When the port engine separate from the pylon, the pilot should have (for a two engine plane) increased power to the starboard engine and compensated for the weight shift, but an inexperienced pilot or a pilot who delayed taking action would have allowed the plane to roll over.

The intelligent person also asks why the government circulated the Fatty bin-Laden video, claiming it was bin-Laden.

Bin-Laden is a Saud, yeah, a member of the Saudi tribe, one of many that inhabit the Arabian Peninsula, he's 6'2" tall, very lean, in part because of his diet due to his kidney ailment, left-handed and a devout Muslim who never wore jewelry of any kind. You need only to look at photos of bin-Laden over the decades to notice that he never, ever, wore jewelry.

The man in the video your government claims was bin-Laden was 5'6", a fat-ass porker, a Turk, probably an Uzbeg, not a Saud, right-handed and adorned with gold jewelry, including a ring and a necklace.

If you bought into that, then your government suckered you.

Bin-Laden is known to be many things, but he's never been a liar. He admitted to sanctioning the attacks on the Twin Towers, even though a US agent may have given the idea to an agent in Pakistani ISI who was a known al-Qaida sympathizer, supporter or double-agent, knowing it would be suggested to Mohammed Atta, but bin-Laden repeatedly claimed he had no knowledge of the planned attacks on the White House and Pentagon.

Given the lies and distortions of truth your government engages in everyday, I'd believe bin-Laden over your government.
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Old 01-05-2019, 12:05 AM
 
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Why? No matter how many times you post it, it still doesn't mean what you want it to mean. It is ridiculous to keep trying to make a case for this. Larry isn't the best-loved man in NYC. Real people in the real world would have jumped all over this, especially with the legal battles between SPI and the PA in the years to follow.

I'll take the word of FDNY and the engineers who were actually there over YouTube videos and an imagination. Methinks too much TV and too many movies is having an effect on common sense.
Well, if it were a false flag event, FDNY, police, and others wouldnt have a clue it was a false flag, they would be in the same boat as everyone else, just watching what is going on around them, they would have NO way to determine right there on the spot, if it was a false flag or not.


Im not sure where that myth came from, that in false flag events, firefighters, police, first responders, etc are ALL 'in on it'....that couldnt be more wrong!
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Old 01-05-2019, 12:09 AM
 
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Funny how the uneducated skeptics are dismissing experts' opinions based on facts, not feeeeeeelings.

Nothing wrong with the truth being revealed, is there? Don't pay and see what they release, if anything. Let's see who was involved.
Huh, funny then, that are quite a few engineers and other professionals, that DO believe this was an 'inside job' or the official version is not really what happened at least.


So, you have one structural engineer who says it was as it was reported...a random terrorist attack, but another structural engineer says it was not...who do you believe?
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