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Old 01-05-2019, 12:32 AM
 
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Most people don't know there were THREE buildings that came down but only TWO planes hit the two towers. I wonder if there was a third plane that didn't make it because that it was an obvious and pretty big blunder by the murderers.
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It was hit by one of the towers and there was a substantial amount of damage, use google images for "southwest corner WTC7" . Haven't seen that picture on you conspiracy sites about wtc7 have you?


The full extent of the structural damage to that building is unclear because the side where it occurred was always obscured for the entire event but if the image you just viewed is any indication of what it could be it's obviously extensive.
Are we talking about Building 7 song on YouTube?


https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZdRi_GOdEmM
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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Well, if it were a false flag event, FDNY, police, and others wouldnt have a clue it was a false flag, they would be in the same boat as everyone else, just watching what is going on around them, they would have NO way to determine right there on the spot, if it was a false flag or not.


Im not sure where that myth came from, that in false flag events, firefighters, police, first responders, etc are ALL 'in on it'....that couldnt be more wrong!
But they would most certainly have a clue as to whether buildings were taken down by controlled demolition or not. There would be evidence left behind, and the engineers who examined the debris and structural elements and worked with NIST on the collapse analyses and reviewed the draft reports would know.

Think about how what you're saying doesn't make sense. You've got a building, WTC7/the Solomon Brothers Building, structurally damaged by other buildings, engulfed in heavy fire. The World Trade Department engineers, familiar with the structure, in conjunction with firefighters, make the determination that the building cannot be saved and will likely collapse, and abandon efforts to save it. Hours later, the building finally collapses, as predicted--so the collapse was obviously a controlled demolition?
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:42 AM
 
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Most people don't know there were THREE buildings that came down but only TWO planes hit the two towers. I wonder if there was a third plane that didn't make it because that it was an obvious and pretty big blunder by the murderers.
Three? There were 21 buildings destroyed or damaged.
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:00 AM
 
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But they would most certainly have a clue as to whether buildings were taken down by controlled demolition or not. There would be evidence left behind, and the engineers who examined the debris and structural elements and worked with NIST on the collapse analyses and reviewed the draft reports would know.

Think about how what you're saying doesn't make sense. You've got a building, WTC7/the Solomon Brothers Building, structurally damaged by other buildings, engulfed in heavy fire. The World Trade Department engineers, familiar with the structure, in conjunction with firefighters, make the determination that the building cannot be saved and will likely collapse, and abandon efforts to save it. Hours later, the building finally collapses, as predicted--so the collapse was obviously a controlled demolition?
I believe planes were used to bring down the towers, Im just saying, I dont believe it was 'terrorists' who orchestrated it, I believe our Govt was involved to some degree.
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:06 AM
 
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Anyway, I imagine that this story will die away. There was no secret conspiracy concerning 9/11.
Just a lot of unexplained coincidences such as Bush's brother was in charge of security at the Twin Towers, The Pentagon was hit at the only reinforced section. Bush and Cheney wanted a war to profit them. $2.3 Trillion was millsin from the Armed Forces budget and the records were destroyed on that day. The only 3 buildings made of steel to ever collapse happened on 911 other high rises have burned longer and survived. 7 WTC has no explanation other than a detonation to bring it down if you can excuse the other 2 detonations.
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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Just a lot of unexplained coincidences such as Bush's brother was in charge of security at the Twin Towers, The Pentagon was hit at the only reinforced section. Bush and Cheney wanted a war to profit them. $2.3 Trillion was millsin from the Armed Forces budget and the records were destroyed on that day. The only 3 buildings made of steel to ever collapse happened on 911 other high rises have burned longer and survived. 7 WTC has no explanation other than a detonation to bring it down if you can excuse the other 2 detonations.
This is one secret they can NEVER EVER allow to get out to the public, its up there with the JFK killing, aliens, etc
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Old 01-05-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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Just a lot of unexplained coincidences such as Bush's brother was in charge of security at the Twin Towers, The Pentagon was hit at the only reinforced section. Bush and Cheney wanted a war to profit them. $2.3 Trillion was millsin from the Armed Forces budget and the records were destroyed on that day. The only 3 buildings made of steel to ever collapse happened on 911 other high rises have burned longer and survived. 7 WTC has no explanation other than a detonation to bring it down if you can excuse the other 2 detonations.
Absolutely untrue, and a bit perplexed that this lame old story still hangs on. Marvin Bush was on the Board of Directors of a conglomeration that owned, among other companies, one of the security consulting firms that had once done some advising to The Port Authority, which owned the WTC. The fact that someone would take that information to try to make it stretch into "Marvin Bush was in charge of security at the Twin Towers" shows either complete stupidity or deception.

And then what? Because a brother of the President who was in office on the date of the attacks sat on a corporate board, it means...something?

Were you inside either of the towers on 9/11? Do you know what it sounded like, smelled like, felt like in there after the planes hit? Do you know what the steel sounded like on a normal day and then what it sounded like after impact? Do you even understand what I mean by that last sentence?

Do you know any of the engineers who worked in the building, examined the structural elements or worked on the collapse analysis or reviewed the draft NIST report?

I can answer yes to all of those questions.

You can have your Pentagon and Armed Forces budget stories. Don't know much about them, personally.
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Old 01-05-2019, 01:36 PM
 
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Absolutely untrue, and a bit perplexed that this lame old story still hangs on. Marvin Bush was on the Board of Directors of a conglomeration that owned, among other companies, one of the security consulting firms that had once done some advising to The Port Authority, which owned the WTC. The fact that someone would take that information to try to make it stretch into "Marvin Bush was in charge of security at the Twin Towers" shows either complete stupidity or deception.

And then what? Because a brother of the President who was in office on the date of the attacks sat on a corporate board, it means...something?

Were you inside either of the towers on 9/11? Do you know what it sounded like, smelled like, felt like in there after the planes hit? Do you know what the steel sounded like on a normal day and then what it sounded like after impact? Do you even understand what I mean by that last sentence?

Do you know any of the engineers who worked in the building, examined the structural elements or worked on the collapse analysis or reviewed the draft NIST report?

I can answer yes to all of those questions.

You can have your Pentagon and Armed Forces budget stories. Don't know much about them, personally.
So the hijackers ID's survived at crash sites and where the towers fell but the IDs of the over 3000 people who died theirs did not survive?
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Old 01-05-2019, 01:40 PM
 
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I believe planes were used to bring down the towers, Im just saying, I dont believe it was 'terrorists' who orchestrated it, I believe our Govt was involved to some degree.
Bush and Cheney got with the Bin Laden family, which were the only people allowed to leave on airplanes when everything else was grounded. They knew of the plot and it happened but they put in detonation devices beforehand because they knew what was coming. They planned it with the Saudis which is why we still protect them when they kill an American Resident. The Bush and Cheney family became wealthy beyond their belief due to Haliburton and gas prices going over $4 a gallon. There is a reason why the 911 report is redacted in places and things are still hidden about it.

and the only three buildings to free fall and collapse from a fire that was not hot enough to melt steel happened on 911. Even the Oklahoma city bombing building or high rises that burned for an entire day have never collapsed.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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So the hijackers ID's survived at crash sites and where the towers fell but the IDs of the over 3000 people who died theirs did not survive?
Is that the best refutation to his post that you can come up with? Give it up already.
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