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Old 01-03-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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I am fairly liberal by the standards of this site and have to acknowledge proposes is not possible in the timeframes she is suggesting. Or at all- you cannot mandate people change existing buildings except for issues of life safety....


I think improving the grid is a necessity but I do not think she understands how complex that will be. I doubly doubt she even realizes all the stakeholders and jurisdictions.


I think she is fast reaching a point that she needs to sit down, be quiet and learn. People are feasting on her every word and tantrum.
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:38 AM
 
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What is so funny about planning for the future?
Rational planning for the future is good sense. However, Ms. Ortez's "planning" is comedic, as it is more akin to the fanciful wishes of a five year old girl, rather than a well thought out, comprehensive plan. That is what makes her so funny- she actually believes she is intelligent and has unique plans that no one has considered before.


I am thankful that the citizens of her district elected her, as the entertainment value is priceless. Given the fact that she, as an individual, has very little power, none of her crazy plans will be enacted, as there is a "filter" through the rest of congress.


Given the high likelihood that most of her constituents are as crazy as her, we can look forward to laughs for decades from her. It is highly unlikely that she will suddenly become intelligent or gain common sense, so there will be a bonanza of idiocy to come from her.
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I am fairly liberal by the standards of this site and have to acknowledge proposes is not possible in the timeframes she is suggesting. Or at all- you cannot mandate people change existing buildings except for issues of life safety....


I think improving the grid is a necessity but I do not think she understands how complex that will be. I doubly doubt she even realizes all the stakeholders and jurisdictions.


I think she is fast reaching a point that she needs to sit down, be quiet and learn. People are feasting on her every word and tantrum.
Nothing was ever accomplished by not starting somewhere.

But yeah, let's just keep talking about how nothing can be done instead of considering possibilities.

How ever did this country land a man on the moon?
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:44 AM
 
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I am fairly liberal by the standards of this site and have to acknowledge proposes is not possible in the timeframes she is suggesting. Or at all- you cannot mandate people change existing buildings except for issues of life safety....
Except that has been done. Newer lighting is far more efficient than what was replaced.

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I think improving the grid is a necessity but I do not think she understands how complex that will be. I doubly doubt she even realizes all the stakeholders and jurisdictions.


I think she is fast reaching a point that she needs to sit down, be quiet and learn. People are feasting on her every word and tantrum.
Without being able to back up why.
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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Rational planning for the future is good sense. However, Ms. Ortez's "planning" is comedic, as it is more akin to the fanciful wishes of a five year old girl, rather than a well thought out, comprehensive plan. That is what makes her so funny- she actually believes she is intelligent and has unique plans that no one has considered before.
You say it's "comedic" with no explanation as to why. I'm suppose to go with that instead?


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I am thankful that the citizens of her district elected her, as the entertainment value is priceless. Given the fact that she, as an individual, has very little power, none of her crazy plans will be enacted, as there is a "filter" through the rest of congress.


Given the high likelihood that most of her constituents are as crazy as her, we can look forward to laughs for decades from her. It is highly unlikely that she will suddenly become intelligent or gain common sense, so there will be a bonanza of idiocy to come from her.
You seem to think name calling will take us into the future.
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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It reads like something my daughter wrote when she was running for student council president in middle school. Ridiculously naive for a woman her age.

https://news.grabien.com/story-ocasi...government-con
Bills introduced is often confused with action/ progress. Politicians post the noise on their websites.

5000+ bills are introduced each year. The overwhelming majority die.

Some bills are written to demonstrate action to campaign donors.

Some bills are written to show supporters they are following through on campaign intentions, despite knowledge the bill is DOA.
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:51 AM
 
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Nothing was ever accomplished by not starting somewhere.

But yeah, let's just keep talking about how nothing can be done instead of considering possibilities.

How ever did this country land a man on the moon?
You took the words right out of my mouth.
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:52 AM
 
Location: IL
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That's pretty much like saying you don't want it to rain on your birthday because you have outdoor plans.
its not. i have no control over the weather
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:54 AM
 
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its not. i have no control over the weather
You have no control or ability to take us back to the past either. It isn't going to happen. You can deal with realities or fantasies.

No one is going to stop you from building a shack in the woods. The overwhelming vast majority of people have no desire to do that and neither do you.
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Old 01-03-2019, 10:00 AM
 
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She should believe that she can get stuff done.
That's what she was elected to do.

Too often we've seen newly elected congresspeople subsumed into the status quo that the dinosaurs have created - going along to get along in order to maintain their place at the donation troughs.

Of course she won't get traction for everything, but to berate her for actually trying to represent her constituents is a really lousy thing to do.

Just goes to show that both sides are equal in their desire to see nothing change.
The right wing has been given their marching orders to negate her ever since Cortez (not Ortez OP) has been elected. Anyone that gives credibility to a group that helped put the treacherous orange buffoon in office must be nuts. Rep. Cortez...you are doing things right if the dinosaurs of the GOP are nipping at your heels...you go girl!!!
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