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This shutdown will end badly for tRump and his Pub lickspittles.
"The public generally is more apt to blame the President, with 55% saying he is more responsible for the shutdown than are Democrats in Congress, while 32% say the blame rests mostly with the Democrats."
And if you go to the full poll results in your link, you'll see that Republicans were blamed in the Oct 2013 shutdown yet Republicans made sweeping gains in the Senate and House and gubernatorials in 2014. And then the White House in 2016. So don't be too confident that "blame for the shutdown" translates into anything later.
Besides, you call it "blame" and Trump calls it "credit". Both mean being responsible but different connotations. Saying 55% credit Trump with the shutdown has a different ring to it.
This has probably already been asked, but I will again...Why does the federal government have nonessential positions in the first place? Anyone nonessential can go out and get a real job in the private sector. I have no sympathy.
Did you bother to google this first? It's quite a list, NASA employees, park rangers, federal prison guards, Coast Guard employees, food and drug inspectors, customs and border patrol employees, weather forecasters, air traffic controllers, TSA airport employees. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/21/what...huts-down.html
Which ones would you like to see sent off to get a 'real job' ?
Recent polling reveals Trump's self destructive shutdown is taking its toll.
The Quinnipiac Poll released yesterday,like other recent surveys, finds Trump is losing the battle for public opinion.
Voters support a Democratic plan to reopen the government by a 63 percent to 30 percent margin. “Every party, gender, education, age and racial group supports this idea except Republicans, who are opposed 52 - 39 percent.”
Voters oppose a wall (55/43 percent)
Wow, support for the wall just keeps growing. That's the highest pct in favor so far, up from 39% a few months back and as low as 35% last year. Any more of this "blame" and the wall will pull even and maybe take the lead.
And if you go to the full poll results in your link, you'll see that Republicans were blamed in the Oct 2013 shutdown yet Republicans made sweeping gains in the Senate and House and gubernatorials in 2014. And then the White House in 2016. So don't be too confident that "blame for the shutdown" translates into anything later.
Besides, you call it "blame" and Trump calls it "credit". Both mean being responsible but different connotations. Saying 55% credit Trump with the shutdown has a different ring to it.
There's a problem with your argument when you have to parse words to make the poll say what you want it to say, but just for kicks, let's look at a new Quinnipiac poll that brings some clarity to the issue:
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American voters support 63 - 30 percent a Democratic proposal to reopen parts of the government that do not involve border security while negotiating funding for the Wall, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. Every party, gender, education, age and racial group supports this idea except Republicans, who are opposed 52 - 39 percent.
Voters oppose 63 - 32 percent shutting down the government to force funding for the Wall, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll finds. Again, Republicans are the only listed group supporting the shutdown, 67 - 24 percent.
The GOP is losing the battle as 56 percent of American voters say President Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress are responsible for the shutdown, while 36 percent say Democrats are responsible.
Voters remain solidly opposed to a wall on the Mexican border, 55 - 43 percent, and reject every argument for the Wall. The 55 - 43 percent opposition compares to 54 - 43 percent opposition in a December 18 survey, just before the partial government shutdown.
American voters are negative in every question about the wall, saying:
59 - 40 percent that it is not a good use of taxpayer dollars;
55 - 43 percent that the wall would not make the U.S. safer;
59 - 40 percent that the wall is not necessary to protect the border;
52 percent say the wall is against American values as 41 percent say the wall is consistent with American values.
And if you go to the full poll results in your link, you'll see that Republicans were blamed in the Oct 2013 shutdown yet Republicans made sweeping gains in the Senate and House and gubernatorials in 2014. And then the White House in 2016. So don't be too confident that "blame for the shutdown" translates into anything later.
This shutdown is only a small (but irritating) factor in what may lead to a GOP defeat next year. Of course, it's the economy that'll be front and center, along with tRump's many scandals. A good economy means it'll be a competitive election. If we see a slowdown, that'll be bad news for Pubs.
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Besides, you call it "blame" and Trump calls it "credit". Both mean being responsible but different connotations. Saying 55% credit Trump with the shutdown has a different ring to it.
There's a problem with your argument when you have to parse words to make the poll say what you want it to say, but just for kicks, let's look at a new Quinnipiac poll that brings some clarity to the issue:
There's a problem with your argument when you have to evade the facts I presented and post the results of a poll to defend the results of a poll.
Fact. Republicans were blamed for the Oct 2013 shutdown.
Fact. Republicans made sweeping gains in the Senate and House and gubernatorials in 2014.
Feel free to challenge either of those facts. It is based on the facts that I said not to be too confident that your polls will translate into consequences in the next elections.
There's a problem with your argument when you have to evade the facts I presented and post the results of a poll to defend the results of a poll.
Fact. Republicans were blamed for the Oct 2013 shutdown.
Fact. Republicans made sweeping gains in the Senate and House and gubernatorials in 2014.
Feel free to challenge either of those facts. It is based on the facts that I said not to be too confident that your polls will translate into consequences in the next elections.
So you are proud of Republicans for the shutdown and you defend it? Who cares about the last election? Was there corruption involved as well? A Mueller investigation? Putin talks with records destroyed? I think that there is a problem with you forecasting a completely different time and scenario.
There's a problem with your argument when you have to evade the facts I presented and post the results of a poll to defend the results of a poll.
Fact. Republicans were blamed for the Oct 2013 shutdown.
Fact. Republicans made sweeping gains in the Senate and House and gubernatorials in 2014.
Feel free to challenge either of those facts. It is based on the facts that I said not to be too confident that your polls will translate into consequences in the next elections.
I don't need to challenge the 'facts' but what you forget is that correlation is not the same as causation.
i.e John wore a red shirt today and it rained does not mean that red shirts cause rain storms.
To claim that Democrats should give Trump $5 billion to waste on a wall he doesn't even have any plans for yet in order to be in a better political position next year is just ridiculous.
Trump needs to throw in the towel. He's whipped. Three fresh polls out today including the usually favorable Rasmussen have him in double digits negative territory. He is losing everyone in America but his nutball base.
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