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Old 01-06-2019, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I refuse to "co-exist" with anyone whose religion requires that I be converted, or beheaded, or stoned to death.
I do not want Sharia Law in my city, county, state, or country.
I still question how any practicing Muslim can swear allegiance to the Constitution and laws of the United States!

Seems like you need a lesson in the 1st Amendment.

We have 2 members of Congress who happen to be Muslim.

We have many members of the armed forces who happen to be Muslim.

All of your screeds are rubbish.
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Old 01-06-2019, 08:49 AM
 
Location: NYC
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When in the last 50 years have the Catholic's committed any acts of mass terrorism here in the United States or any other country? Muslim's, well that's a different story.
Maybe not mass terrorism, but let’s ask thousands of young boys how they feel about the church.
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Seems like you need a lesson in the 1st Amendment.

We have 2 members of Congress who happen to be Muslim.

We have many members of the armed forces who happen to be Muslim.

All of your screeds are rubbish.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..."
That seems plain enough that anybody could understand it, but apparently some people don't.
My "screeds" are also plain enough: they are my personal opinions, also protected by the First Amendment:
"or abridging the freedom of speech,..."
Yes, we do have two members of Congress who happen to be Muslim. I still want to know how they can swear to uphold and defend the United States Constitution, but still uphold and defend the Koran and Mohamed, and Sharia law. The same goes for members of the armed forces.
I have no problem with Muslims (or any other religion, for that matter) serving our country. However, I feel that there could be a conflict of interest between their beliefs (or lack thereof), and their upholding of the Constitution and the defense of it against all enemies, foreign or domestic (including their religion, if applicable). If there is a conflict between the Constitution and their religious teachings, which will they tend to abide by more often?
THAT,IMO, might be a problem!
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Originally Posted by Redraven View Post
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..."
That seems plain enough that anybody could understand it, but apparently some people don't.
My "screeds" are also plain enough: they are my personal opinions, also protected by the First Amendment:
"or abridging the freedom of speech,..."
Yes, we do have two members of Congress who happen to be Muslim. I still want to know how they can swear to uphold and defend the United States Constitution, but still uphold and defend the Koran and Mohamed, and Sharia law. The same goes for members of the armed forces.
I have no problem with Muslims (or any other religion, for that matter) serving our country. However, I feel that there could be a conflict of interest between their beliefs (or lack thereof), and their upholding of the Constitution and the defense of it against all enemies, foreign or domestic (including their religion, if applicable). If there is a conflict between the Constitution and their religious teachings, which will they tend to abide by more often?
THAT,IMO, might be a problem!
Just as with every other legislator in the US, state and federal, it’s up to that legislator’s voters to determine whether they think their representative is living up to their constitutional obligations. If a legislator does something that’s actually illegal, sic the justice system on them. Otherwise, your doubt that Muslims can honestly perform their jobs echoes my doubt that fundie Christians can honestly perform their jobs, for the same reason - when push comes to shove, will they be able to not just uphold the first amendment but actively promote it? But again, that’s something we can only judge by what they actually do. And of course, in the end, it’s up to their voters.
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:10 PM
 
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I refuse to "co-exist" with anyone whose religion requires that I be converted, or beheaded, or stoned to death.
I do not want Sharia Law in my city, county, state, or country.
I still question how any practicing Muslim can swear allegiance to the Constitution and laws of the United States!
You already coexist with muslims. We all do because we all live in a society.
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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The amount of ignorance and paranoid delusions of the right with their fear of Sharia Law becoming the law of the land would be comical if it didn't involve so much blind stupidity on the right.
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Old 01-07-2019, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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Have you done so?
I have. Multiple times. Makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
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Old 01-07-2019, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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The amount of ignorance and paranoid delusions of the right with their fear of Sharia Law becoming the law of the land would be comical if it didn't involve so much blind stupidity on the right.
Sure thing bubba. Ask England how their pushback on sharia is going. Look deep and stay woke.
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Old 01-07-2019, 04:07 PM
 
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What would it take to impose sharia law on Tarrant county, Texas or the USA?
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Old 01-07-2019, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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What would it take to impose sharia law on Tarrant county, Texas or the USA?
A constitutional amendment, which is why all of this paranoid nonsense worrying about sharia law is just silly noise from people who spend time worrying about things that will never happen.
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