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Originally Posted by TwoByFour
Wouldn't be prudent because perhaps too many Americans are tired of the carnage from guns in America and they would think that the 1st Amendment is outdated for our current situation? What kind of a democracy is it that ignores the will of the people, the living people, and defers to those who lived 250 years ago to set the standards by which we live? It is crazy to live by 250 year old standards that no longer apply.
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Constitutional republic.
Until you abolish the Supreme Court
Until you stack congress, senate, and gain a president to push forth draconian laws that will only disarm the people who chose to participate in a Constitutionally protected liberty to keep and bear arms...
If you want to abolish the 2nd. How do you propose collecting between 800 million and 1.2 billion firearms in private hands?
In the hypothetical guns are banned and illegal... well... if you're going to declare me a felon for possessing something you don't like, might as well be worth it to be the best felon there is fire up the drill press and start making machine guns.
Carnage from guns?
I've yet to see any firearm pick itself up and carry out any heinous carnage.
Your good feelz programs, laws, judges? The bipartisan agreement that was made to allow the mentally defect to roam freely? There's your carnage.
Doubt it?
Here's a case of exactly that.
Parkland dumbo eared scumbag, protected by a good feelz initiative that circumvents the legal system and enabled said scumbag to legally acquire a firearm. Known as the "Promise Program". An initiative between school Superintendent Runcie and Sheriff Isreal.
Never mind the coward who just hung out outside while the attack commenced.
Never mind the inept leadership in that dept that arrived on scene.
Here's how that program works. And if you have kids in a school that participates in said program I strongly advise pulling them out and putting them in another school.
This good feelz initiative was set in stone to "end the school to prison pipeline" and did so for not charging students who actively engaged in felonious actions and misdemeanors that extinguish laws set in place to deny the right to acquire a firearm legally.
Commit a felony? Info goes to NICS and denial comes back.
Commit domestic violence? Info goes to NICS and denial comes back.
Florida also has this thing called the Baker Act. Long before the "red flag law" passed recently, if you were posing a credible threat to your, or others well being, you lost your right to keep and bear arms, you underwent analysis.
That little scumbag had police at his residency more times than the local ice cream truck and was NEVER charged for ANY of the crimes he had committed leading up to his heinous senseless act. Yet... due to this fact alone, never mind the FBI being informed of a credible threat he had made online via youtube, local government failed in a fashion so epic, that had you committed something so negligent and irresponsible YOU would be put in prison. And that's just cause to extinguish Floridians aged 18-20 rights to keep and bear arms? Well okie dokie then. May as well strip their remaining Constitutionally protected civil liberties then too. Go right down the list.
There's plenty of information available behind that little scumbag at the crimes he committed wholesale and got away with Scott free. Including throwing his adopted mother into a wall when they had an argument. That's a domestic violence charge right there. And Florida does not play around with DV. If police are dispatched over neighbors arguing in their yard someone is leaving in cuffs. And if someone becomes physical? Witness or no witness present, someone is leaving in cuffs and charged.
Dumbo eared scumbag? Nah, we must end the school to prison pipeline. For its difficult to get into college. Get into the military etc...
Know what else is difficult to get with felony charges and misdemeanor charge of domestic violence?
Firearms.
Punish the people for something the government screwed up. Makes sense.
That little dumbo eared scumbag? Never was arrested. Never had been Baker acted.
Why?
Promise program forbids it.
Think I'm pulling your leg?
Read up on it. Here's the link.
https://www.realclearinvestigations...._shooting.html
1. Warren V D.C. supreme Court ruling-Police do not have a duty to protect. This is why the coward isn't hanging for dereliction of duty.
2. You want others, to forfeit private property without compensation or with what you declare fair compensation?
3. You want to conflate and falsely equate firearm ownership, with homicidal scumbags. To push your trendy emotionally compelled agenda?
Nah. Not happening.
This millennial will go to their grave opposing the emotional tyrants agendas at wanting a lemming dystopia reliant on an adult in the room to handle life's woes, or seek the lemming and emotional tyrants approval on what means and measures are approved for self defense, home defense, property defense.
I didn't fall for the charades in middle school. I vehemently opposed them in highschool. I vehemently argued and opposed the ideology in college.
Tell you what. You're right. This nation and it's constitution is outdated.
I'm going to have to require you to submit to a universal background check before you post to a publicly accessible forum.
Just to make sure you're not spreading wrong think. To exercise your 1st amendment rights, you will need to pay .gov for a permit and license. At what I deem is fair.
We will require that you register all devices through your local police department. And state and federal records too. All publicly accessible information. From your devices, their serial numbers, how many, what type, right on down to your name and address.
Require finger prints to be taken, and a passport photo as well. Because should your lap top, smart phone, desk top get stolen, or lend it out to someone and they commit thought crime, we need to be able to lift finger prints from its keyboard/screen.
Only certain phrases and words will be able to be used on publicly accessible forums, and all forms of social media. Otherwise they're high capacity assault words and fully automatic gas lighting and trolling. Capable of offending and defying what is deemed main stream and acceptable for standards set in stone by a regulatory commission funded by your tax dollars.
Unless you want to purchase a tax stamp to use said words and phrases for 200 dollars, wait a year to year and a half for the documentation and background check to be approved.
That covers the first.
Now let's apply this to the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th.
Let's do the same for voting rights.
Let's extinguish and abolish every individual liberty as we know it. Turn them all into privileges that only the wealthy can enjoy.
Sounds good. A soylent green / 1984 dystopia. Where I have privilege I mean rights, and you have nothing. Pick up that can citizen.
Attack 1 right. May as well attack them all. Because America be scary. Feelings are more important than facts, logic, and critical thinking.