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Old 01-11-2019, 01:33 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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What's wrong with being passionate about an issue. I'm not a bro, I'm a . . .
Guy thinks he's Paul Simon.

Ignore it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRueQu6hQuo
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:36 AM
 
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Most food stamp recipients do work. If jobs paid living wages most of the recipients would not qualify. https://www.cbpp.org/research/policy...e-program-snap
As i said up above dove. For people that do nothing they should get nothing.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:37 AM
 
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Guy thinks he's Paul Simon.

Ignore it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRueQu6hQuo
Don't even know who the guy is sly.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:43 AM
 
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As i said up above dove. For people that do nothing they should get nothing.
The mentally ill, handicapped, disabled, etc. should get nothing? We have millions of them.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:29 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Most food stamp recipients do work. If jobs paid living wages most of the recipients would not qualify.
Jobs do provide living wages. Everyone should live within one's means. That means there will be varying levels of standard of living, but so be it. Don't like it? Work on improving one's marketable skill sets.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:31 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Jobs do provide living wages. Everyone should live within one's means. That means there will be varying levels of standard of living, but so be it. Don't like it? Work on improving one's marketable skill sets.
Hogwash and you know it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:39 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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Most food stamp recipients do work. If jobs paid living wages most of the recipients would not qualify. https://www.cbpp.org/research/policy...e-program-snap
But... not all jobs are supposed to pay a "living wage". Certainly, not any dishwashing or fry cook job. A minimum wage job is great for that (young) unskilled worker with no job experience. And if one is single, w/o kids and sharing an apartment or house with other adults of the same status, then it's all fine. And low-paying jobs are supposed to give those workers the incentive to acquire better English skills, desirable work skills and job experience to make an effort to get that future better paying job.

Why do we need to support slackers who are too lazy to obtain better job skills for better pay? Why are we supporting the bad life decisions of adults who have babies too early in life or just keep having kids they can't afford to feed??? What happened to planned parenthood? We should not be enabling these idiots. Plus in the olden days, young parents would turn to their families for support and help.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:47 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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But... not all jobs are supposed to pay a "living wage". Certainly, not any dishwashing or fry cook job. A minimum wage job is great for that (young) unskilled worker with no job experience. And if one is single, w/o kids and sharing an apartment or house with other adults of the same status, then it's all fine. And low-paying jobs are supposed to give those workers the incentive to acquire better English skills, desirable work skills and job experience to make an effort to get that future better paying job.

Why do we need to support slackers who are too lazy to obtain better job skills for better pay? Why are we supporting the bad life decisions of adults who have babies too early in life or just keep having kids they can't afford to feed??? What happened to planned parenthood? We should not be enabling these idiots. Plus in the olden days, young parents would turn to their families for support and help.
Eat on dirty dishes and then tell me those sorts of jobs aren't important.

And since there aren't enough good jobs even for those with the skills and education (reference the underemployment rate), your entire argument really falls flat.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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There was a leader in WW2 who wanted them all killed who can't be mentioned here because of all his supporters. . Some Americans would gladly let them starve to death.

I'm fine with subsidizing the legitimately disabled, but not fine with subsidizing the sort of rampant fraud that occurs in places like Hale County, Alabama, where a quarter of the working-age population all visit the same doctor and get declared disabled simply because they can't (or won't) find work (or relocate to do so).
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:51 AM
 
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Jobs do provide living wages. Everyone should live within one's means. That means there will be varying levels of standard of living, but so be it. Don't like it? Work on improving one's marketable skill sets.
True. Take Target, currently advertising for $12/hr jobs. Can a person live on $24,000 a year? Maybe not on his or her own. But a couple together would make nearly $50,000. Tight budget? Definitely. Doable? Yes.

And say what.....not married? Well then find two roommates and rent a 3-bedroom townhouse for $1800 so your share would be $600, and babysit on weekends. That's what I did when I first started out and made a low income.

People are not entitled to earn an income that enables them to rent a 1-bedroom on their own. If they want to earn more money, they can always take advantage of free community college in the evenings and get a vocational certificate.
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