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Old 01-10-2019, 05:24 PM
 
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That's how it reads to me as well.


On the other hand, "as long as peace subsists among the whites and Indians on the borders of the hunting districts" will be the problematic part of that.Whites can be construed as the state.
Only those who will not want to say that in public.
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Old 01-10-2019, 05:31 PM
 
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Guaranteed he gets handouts from the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
How would you know this?
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Old 01-10-2019, 05:32 PM
 
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How do you know he does not receive SNAP benefits?
how do you know he does?
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Old 01-10-2019, 05:41 PM
 
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Yeah. This isn't as simple or clear-cut as it would appear on first reading.

If the SCOTUS decided in favor of the plaintiff then wildlife in all national parks and wilderness areas will be subject to heavier hunting pressure. Anytime of the year. Yellowstone in the summer? The UP of Michigan?

It's not only Indian/native Americans that subsistence hunt. Careful management assures there is game for all. Whether to view or hunt.

This gentleman is welcome to hunt on reservation year round, and off rez during season.
I agree - they followed the herd, but did they follow the Law. The LAW must always matter.

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Do all National Parks have reservations that border them?
I don't know - but doubtful.

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By definition, poaching has nothing to do with whether or not you feed your family with it. Poaching is illegal hunting against government laws.

I was thinking the same thing. I am sure that guy is a good guy, but there is a can of worms to be opened here if the court sets a precedent of allowing 1800s treaties to supersede wildlife preservation laws, etc...
I also agree ..... "Poaching has nothing to do with feeding a family" ..... or a Tribe

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He was. Odd that so many want to ignore that.
It will be an interesting case to watch ....... and it highlights why we have a US Supreme Court to decide these issues. Interesting Case. Our family also hunts, but following the Law is what we do.
Not following the LAW is very expensive - and so it should be.
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Old 01-10-2019, 05:46 PM
 
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It will be an interesting case to watch ....... and it highlights why we have a US Supreme Court to decide these issues. Interesting Case. Our family also hunts, but following the Law is what we do.
Not following the LAW is very expensive - and so it should be.
It should. I used to and followed the law also. Hunted during season with proper equipment and bought a license. It still appears to me that this person followed the agreement between the government and his tribe.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:11 PM
 
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It’s nonsense, free him.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:35 PM
 
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Which if that is the agreement, then that is the agreement.
Yup. It is.

It will be interesting to watch this case develop. As I said, much depends on the original treaty.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:37 PM
 
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WHat difference does it make? Indians make the argument that they can hunt anywhere, on lands that are not part of, or adjacent to, reservations. I might be wrong about this but I think they get away with it in WA.
If their treaty allows them to hunt, fish, and gather in their usual and accustomed places, even if those places are off-reservation, they're not "getting away with it". It's their right.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:39 PM
 
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How would you know this?
Look it up. Indians on the res get “free” money.
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:36 PM
 
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Look it up. Indians on the res get “free” money.
And they'd be silly not to take it
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