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Old 01-11-2019, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Nothing was stolen, Hillary got her butt whooped in the electoral college.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:12 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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I'm no expert, and I held my nose and voted for her. But I thought she ran a bad campaign and Comey's comments about the investigation did not help. But that's beside the point, as she lost in the electoral college. Either that was an accident, or, more likely, the Republicans ran a much smarter, and better targeted, campaign than the Democrats imagined. However, much of the information the Republicans used to target specific groups in specific areas came from Cambridge Analytica, who shared information with "The Russians".

All anyone can do is speculate about this.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:18 AM
 
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Sure the Soviet helped. Us real Americans rarely stoop so low to let a swamp monster get into office. So my speculation is...the old saying: nothing to see here folks.

...let's look forward to 2020. The intermission presidents days are numbered. Not one person that works in military said they want this wall . Not one person in my area backs govt shutdown under trumps reasoning. So while military is forbidden to speak ill of their chief and commander (funny how military loses its right to have an opinion when they sign up) .
I will though give trump credit for one good deed. He did nominate and get Kavanaugh on the court. That is one time that I disagreed with the mob mentality and saw thru the charades....

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Old 01-11-2019, 04:48 AM
 
Location: az
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No the election wasn`t stolen. Had Hillary won you can be sure the Rep would be doing all they could to make her 4 years as unpleasant as possible.

Yes, Hillary was a poor candidate but she would have beaten anyone else the Reps nominated. Trump tossed out the rule book and won.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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No the election wasn`t stolen. Had Hillary won you can be sure the Rep would be doing all they could to make her 4 years as unpleasant as possible.

Yes, Hillary was a poor candidate but she would have beaten anyone else the Reps nominated. Trump tossed out the rule book and won.
totally agree and feel it's as simple as that....really don't believe the Russians had a darn thing to do with it....especially when I see all the propaganda in social media...
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:47 AM
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I'm no expert, and I held my nose and voted for her. But I thought she ran a bad campaign and Comey's comments about the investigation did not help. But that's beside the point, as she lost in the electoral college. Either that was an accident, or, more likely, the Republicans ran a much smarter, and better targeted, campaign than the Democrats imagined. However, much of the information the Republicans used to target specific groups in specific areas came from Cambridge Analytica, who shared information with "The Russians".

All anyone can do is speculate about this.

Hillary took her election for granted. She underestimated the anger in the Mid-West, and she didn't campaign there. Arrogance and incompetence it was, plain and simple.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Hillary took her election for granted. She underestimated the anger in the Mid-West, and she didn't campaign there. Arrogance and incompetence it was, plain and simple.
There wasn't just anger in the Mid-west.....believe me, a lot of people were angry and came out to vote b/c of it...she lost, for no other reason then the voters wanted change....
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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you may be right, but I am def not sold on Trump....he isn't doing what is right, and I'm sick of him patting himself on the back....however, he has done some good things but just not enough....any president can write executive orders....and with his expertise in money, he surely isn't doing anything for the debt....but he has given his followers some tidbits....

I'm waiting to see how we all fair with our income tax returns, now that he took away so many important deductibles, that really made me angry.
As a 1099 contractor, I've had to pay taxes each year for the past 15 years, not gonna change much this year either.
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:25 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Was the Presidency really stolen from Hillary by Trump and the Russians or is there something else going on here?


Stolen or not is irrelevant if evidence proves Americans acting in concert with Russians attempted to do so.
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Was the Presidency really stolen from Hillary by Trump and the Russians or is there something else going on here?


Stolen or not is irrelevant if evidence proves Americans acting in concert with Russians attempted to do so.
I believe strongly if there was any evidence, they would have found it by now....time will tell, but personally this is the same thing they did to Obama, Hillary, Bush, and nothing was ever done.
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