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Old 01-14-2019, 10:22 AM
 
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People working in the private sector on salary do that all the time. They might work 60-80 hours a week and don't get any overtime pay or even any extra pay at all for those additional hours.
Who are these people and why would you think this is a good thing. I could never wrap my mind around it, my employer pays me for a service and I provide it per the terms agreed upon. I don't understand the concept of working without compensation for your employer. I have gained more from chumming it up on the golf course or lunches than I ever did staying late for free. In fact I would argue: If you don't value your time why should your employer?

If you getting paid for 40 hours but work 60-80 you better own that business or have some serious personal stuff going on that forces you into that type of abuse of your labor. Otherwise find a new job because respect work both ways, I respect my employer but its a business agreement nothing more guys. My employer is not my friend, buddy, or family. I have individual persons at a place of employment that fall in those categories but I've never invited a corporation over to watch a football game.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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Your initial assumption that Republicans are smarter than Democrats is muddled if you maintain that a greater number of Democrats are using public assistance. Your reasoning of IQ, income and party affiliation, does not add up.
Then what's your explanation for why Democrats, who claim to be "more educated" than Republicans, are WAY over-represented on means-tested public assistance rolls?
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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I don’t care if they can’t add 2+2. They serve this country and put their lives in the line and have more respect from me than some Wall Street tycoon.
They get free food, housing, and medical while active military, and free medical when honorably discharged. They ARE respected.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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I'm asking whether or not you support making people work without getting paid and whether you support firing those who decide they are not going to work without getting paid.

Nothing happens without our support.

They signed up to those terms - essential positions must work even during a shutdown. This isn't the first or second or ttwentieth shutdown so no one can say "I never thought it could really happen". Yes, if they are required to work by contract and don't show up, they get fired.



The govt shouldn't be set up in this idiotic way in the first place where essential services must be funded every year or they run out of money. Essential services should be in an isolated funding budget that is automatically renewing unless congressional action changes it. But the swamp wants it this way because they all want "government shutdown" as a bargaining chip.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:41 AM
 
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Who are these people and why would you think this is a good thing.
Seriously? Managers in all industries, salaried employees in any and every public sector industry, and accountants, lawyers, doctors, etc. It's irrelevant whether one's personal opinion is that it's a good thing or not. It's what the labor market will bear.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:44 AM
 
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They signed up to those terms - essential positions must work even during a shutdown. This isn't the first or second or ttwentieth shutdown so no one can say "I never thought it could really happen". Yes, if they are required to work by contract and don't show up, they get fired.
Sorry, prove me wrong, I do not believe there are any such terms .
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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Not to worry; they're getting some help:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...own/ar-BBS9vWF


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Old 01-14-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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Sorry, prove me wrong, I do not believe there are any such terms .

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...strike/579793/
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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Covered many times already . Not working for free is NOT a strike.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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Covered many times already . Not working for free is NOT a strike.

Then you tell me why they are working.


You do realize that if you are right and they are not required to work during a shutdown, then what they are doing is "volunteer" work and they are not due back pay for it?
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