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Old 01-13-2019, 10:22 AM
 
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Actually you guys have to prove the allegations are true


You have all failed
We don't have to prove anything. That's the FBI's and Mueller's jobs.
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:26 AM
 
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We don't have to prove anything. That's the FBI's and Mueller's jobs.
yep, the FBI have been investigating before Mueller, since July of 2016. They have nothing to show for it
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:29 AM
 
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At first, the Left uses the lie that Trump is using the office to enrich himself. When that got tired and played out, they are now using another fabrication that he is a Russian agent.

Trump comes from the generation that loved the U.S. You couldn't get him to work against the U.S., let alone working for Russia even if you threaten to kill him.

The real traitors of this country are the Left and the Democrats. Every single day they are looking to turn us into an open, free for all, refugee camp for anyone who wants to walk in and do whatever they want.
Really? Is that why he used Trump University to con US citizens out of their hard-earned cash? Is that why he stole and misused funds donated for children and veterans?

Sounds like a weird kind of love.
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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yep, the FBI have been investigating before Mueller, since July of 2016. They have nothing to show for it
Are you saying that you are privy to the details of the FBI and Mueller's investigation?
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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For the same reason some of those on the left play their childish ames. They don't like him. He's been a critic of the deep state for quite some time.
It is laughable and pathetic at the same time that people care about tweets vs policy. Get it yet?
Trump himself is a manifestation of the "Deep State" that people like Limbaugh and Hannity set as the bogeyman, out to suck up all the "freedoms" Americans are promised in the Constitution...
How much freedom will anyone have if Trump realizes his dream -- to become the Putin of America

He would love to stifle the free press because that is what all dictators have to do to take power
He would love to be able to enrich himself and his family on the backs of Americans...he has already started

And people who support his actions and claim he is actually the opposite of what he is are just "spin doctors"
Propagandists for those who seek to benefit from Trump's trashing American standards and Constitutional rights

Which makes me think most of these vocal supporters of obvious lies and actions that show Trump's distain for the Constitution and the "norms" we have depended on to keep within the rails on a rocky journey the past 200 years are not really that knowledgeable about or invested in American values...
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:53 AM
 
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Really? Is that why he used Trump University to con US citizens out of their hard-earned cash? Is that why he stole and misused funds donated for children and veterans?

Sounds like a weird kind of love.
Self love is the only love Trump knows...or practices...
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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Turn over the notes Mr President. Those notes do not belong to you, those notes belong to the American people. Traitor and Theif.
Mr Graham, any Republicans that block requests for those notes will go down in infamy. Trumps Traitors.
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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yep, the FBI have been investigating before Mueller, since July of 2016. They have nothing to show for it
You don't know that. Things don't happen overnight.
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If it is not true, why won't Trump just deny it?

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/fox-...iral-1.6831263
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Old 01-13-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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Actually you guys have to prove the allegations are true


You have all failed
I don't have to prove anything--
That is Mueller and others involved in investigating Trump and his crew
Like the Democratic lead US House of Representatives who are happy to have the power denied them by louts like Devin Nunes...

And the only claim you can make is pathetic--
There is no "fail" at this point and you know it
You are so afraid in fact because you and others sharing your same mantra can not bring any facts to dispute Trump's actions and words...
The only weak defense you can make is that there is no evidence--
But you and I and everyone on this thread know that there has been plenty of evidence produced (the latest by Manafort's own attorney in a huge faux pas of a filing) to show there were bad actors involved inside and outside the Trump campaign...
That with Trump's anal-retentive personality there is no way anything significant in that campaign happened w/o Trump's OK and oversight...

You know it--you just can't do anything about making a better argument...
It is like in high school debate-
One topic--each side draws pro or con
Sometimes one side has NO CHANCE of making a decent argument because frankly there is NO decent argument to be made---no matter how hard you research or how smart you are...

You can't make whipped cream from spoiled milk
And that is YOUR situation right now---
You are sitting there with a huge bowl of spoiled milk in front of you and no way to reconstitute it for anything except maybe yogurt...
You can try to sell it as whipped cream but a DISCERNING buyer is going to know the difference and not buy it

And the truth really is that what Trump did was not so secret when you really start to look
That is because Trump loves to brag on himself and he hires lot of stupid people to do his dirty work...

The ONLY reason Trump hasn't been indicted for criminal charges before is that no body really cared enough to do it...
Trump U could have gone criminal vs civil if they really had wanted to persue it--
They should have
Trump likely should have been indicted along with Don Jr and Ivanka for the SoHo fraud case but he made a big donation to the NYC prosecutor and bought their way out of the indictment

I think he has finally pissed off enough people who can't be bought off...
Mueller, who is methodical and pretty uncorruptable, has seen plenty of what Trump and his group have done to cut the legs out from under democracy and the Constitution
Mueller will do whatever it takes to ensure appropriate punishment occurs...
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