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Old 01-14-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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For Trump to be "individual 1" an admission to sedition within the executive branch, is soon to follow, right?


Congress is the only one authorized to formally snoop on the President. Not within the executive branch to overthrow a duly elected President. That is Sedition. Conspiracy to commit Treason.
Not when it's deemed a national security threat.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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For Trump to be "individual 1" an admission to sedition within the executive branch, is soon to follow, right?


Congress is the only one authorized to formally snoop on the President. Not within the executive branch to overthrow a duly elected President. That is Sedition. Conspiracy to commit Treason.
You have been misinformed.

Ask for better material.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:05 PM
 
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for trump to be "individual 1" an admission to sedition within the executive branch, is soon to follow, right?


Congress is the only one authorized to formally snoop on the president. Not within the executive branch to overthrow a duly elected president. That is sedition. Conspiracy to commit treason.
lol...
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:06 PM
 
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Not when it's deemed a national security threat.
The bar doesn't even have to be that high.

Clinton's blow job was never a national security threat nor was the real estate deal that prompted the years and years of investigation by a Special Counsel.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:07 PM
 
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No matter how many time this lie is repeated, it is still a lie.

Good Lord. Read the letter.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...r-special.html

"The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters."
What's your point? The letter doesn't authorize "mission creep". Any expansion of the subject matter of the investigation has to be approved by the AG under 28 CFR 600.4(b).
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:07 PM
 
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That's called mission creep. It's beyond the scope of Mueller's charge and it must stop. I felt the same way about the Whitewater investigation, when it verged into Clinton's sexual dalliances.
Do tell, please remind the class what the scope of Mueller's charge was?
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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No matter how many time this lie is repeated, it is still a lie.

Good Lord. Read the letter.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...r-special.html

"The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters."
Yup-

These are the things that we know- proven to have occured:
1. fawning over Putin, especially Helsinki,
2.the closed door meeting with Kislyak and the other ambassador- with a Russian 'reporter' IN THE OVAL OFFICE no less,
3. the sanctions that are 'oh so tough' that really haven't been enforced,
4. Trump's withdrawal from Syria- which is a HUGE GIFT to Russia,
5. the meetings in the Trump tower,
6. Trumps disdain for NATO and allies (again another HUGE boon for Putin),
7. disparaging the EU (again another geo-political gift).

I mean the hits keep coming! No wonder why there is suspicion that Trump is either in Russia's debt or is one of the most incredibly dumb patsy's in the world, lol. I'm not even tallying the issues like destruction of official notes in meetings with Putin, suspected money laundering- those have yet to be proven.

Had Obama done one of these, let alone all of these, or had been SUSPECTED of these things- the far right would have been FROTHING AT THE MOUTH to have him impeached and thrown in prison.

What a frekin' double standard. I'm convinced they really don't care about our Constitution or country- they only care about their Party Loyalty.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:09 PM
 
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What's your point? The letter doesn't authorize "mission creep". Any expansion of the subject matter of the investigation has to be approved by the AG under 28 CFR 600.4(b).
Care to elaborate? What specific parts of the current investigation are a creep from that original mission (which was broadly written)?
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:09 PM
 
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No matter how many time this lie is repeated, it is still a lie.

Good Lord. Read the letter.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...r-special.html

"The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters."



It would be totally legal and legit, if Congress had declared war upon Russia, before Trump announced he was going to be our President. Without that little tidbit, it is spying on a Private citizen against the 4th amendment, the President elect and a now sitting President. Sedition. The cover up has been amazing to watch. Mueller is in the same boat. If he is spying and investigation Trump for crimes for removal, that is sedition. and all those conspiring with him, are guilty of Treason.
Foreign & Domestic

Only Congress has investigatorial powers over the executive. They impeach, or virtue signal him in public, or assassinate him to get him removed or from a 2nd term.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:12 PM
 
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Care to elaborate? What specific parts of the current investigation are a creep from that original mission (which was broadly written)?
Care to pay attention to the context? Read the last 40 comments, and everything will be crystal-clear.
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