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Old 01-15-2019, 09:25 PM
 
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Here's one from the 1980s. Aside from getting married (apologies to my comrades behind enemy lines ) it looks pretty masculine to me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgzHu3pxgG8
And there's nothing that is "toxic" in that ad. They could have rerun that ad instead of the woke-scold of their latest campaign.
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:26 PM
 
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I'm not being obtuse.
If you say so.
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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If you say so.
I'm not!

Give me a minute/second count where chivalry occurs.

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Courteous behaviour, especially that of a man towards women.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/chivalry
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:31 PM
 
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Are you familiar with the false equivalence fallacy, by any chance? But once the people who come up with silly ideas like "toxic femininity" become a group of consumers worth marketing to, I'm sure there'll be some.
I'm waiting for ads showing women pigeoning for drinks in a bar, berating their husbands/boyfriends in public, pulling off the road and slapping their children when the Munchhausen's kicks in, accusing good men like Kavanaugh, and yelling "woooooooo" outside a club when Spring comes.

See how that works?
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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The woman portrayed in the boardroom scene isn't a victim of men--she's a dunce. Does she raise her hand to speak, too?

Any woman who demurs when confronted by someone speaking for her, doesn't BELONG in the boardroom.

And if Gillette et. al. want to remain credible while pointing out deficiencies in workplace settings, they might want to consider getting off of men's backs. Because the imperious male in that scene could just as easily have been an imperious female coworker or boss--as any working woman would tell them.

Give me a break.
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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We are talking about current advertising, not fifty or seventy years ago.

I know!

Not only that, the OP brings up a shaving company ad, and someone wants us to click on the "menstruation museum."

Yeesh.
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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Get woke. Go broke.
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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I think it's actually good marketing strategy. Everyone is talking about Gillette now!
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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I think it's actually good marketing strategy. Everyone is talking about Gillette now!
Yeah, everyone is talking about how stupid the advert is and how they are not going to buy Gillette and other P&G products. EXCELLENT PUBLICITY!!!!!
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:47 PM
 
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Well, this has been interesting. Not sure how that ad can be offensive to anyone who's secure in his masculinity, but clearly there are some very fragile men out there. Keep at it, guys!
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