Teresa May Failure. BREXIT Deal Fails (statistics, invasion, Australia, recession)
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They used to promote Brexit as a boon for UK economy.
Then it was about how there would likely be a brief period of readjustment, but after that the UK economy would take off because the EU, like every nation on earth, would want to sign great trade deals with the UK as it would be in their best interests.
Then posts about how the EU is being nasty to the UK. Also the EU is falling apart. Hurrah!
Meanwhile, investors are moving funds out of the UK, and one business after another is transferring staff and moving the EU part of their business to EU nations.
Some are now saying that the economic hit is worth it to get sovereignty back.
So be it.
The fact we are leaving and can make our own free trade deals, without first seeking the approval of 27 other nations will be good for Britain, as will making our own laws and regulations in relation to finance and other sectors.
Some kind of free trade agreement with the EU would be the idea scenario, however in terms of a no-deal brexit I have no problem with it whatsoever, and look foreward to leaving even without any deal.
We don't have free trade deals with the US, China and a lot of other major trading countries, yet manage to do lots of trade with these countries, as indeed does Europe which also doesn't have ree trade agreements with these countries.
The US is Britain's top trading partner by individual country, and China is in the top 5.
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Nobody is saying the U.S. won WWII singlehanded, but to claim that the Brits got it right after the Dunkirk fiasco is ridiculous. They needed a lot of help getting it right.
But since you are so sure the Brits can manage without the feeble help of the U.S., our supply ships, the U.S. soldiers that landed not only at Normandy Beach but also Anzio, etc. ... we'll sit out the next one.
Good luck!
My father was in the US Army Air Corps. He spent most of the war in North Africa in support of Montgomery's forces, chasing Rommel. The US Army Air Corps provided support and was not running the show.
This constant insistence that the British could have won WWI and WWII without U.S. supplies, U.S. troops, and U.S. generals is wonderful news.
Next time around, the U.S. can limit assistance to thoughts and prayers.
Britain supplied the USSR via the Arctic Convoys, but it's not something we go on about, and we also supplied a third of US troops in relation to D-Day.
I suggest you click on the infogram below to view how important the Eastern Front was.
As for D-Day, Commonwealth personnel, nearly all British and Canadian, outnumbered the Americans on D-day. Of the 156,000 men landed in France on 6 June, 73,000 were American, and 83,000 were British and Canadian.
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The plan for Operation Overlord -- as D-Day was codenamed -- was largely that of Gen. Bernard Montgomery, the land force commander. The Royal Navy had overall responsibility for Operation Neptune, the naval plan. Of the 1,213 warships involved, 200 were American and 892 were British; of the 4,126 landing craft involved, 805 were American and 3,261 were British.
Indeed, 31% of all U.S. supplies used during D-Day came directly from Britain, while two-thirds of the 12,000 aircraft involved were also British, as were two-thirds of those that landed in occupied France. Despite the initial slaughter at Omaha, casualties across the American and British beaches were much the same. This is not to belittle the U.S. effort but rather to add context and a wider, 360-degree view. History needs to teach as well as entertain.
Getting back on topic - the EU has always been fundamentally democratic, with elected MEP's having less power than even the UK House of Lords and most laws made by unelected bureaucrats. Even the EU President is unelected by the general public, yet earns more than the President of the United States.
They used to promote Brexit as a boon for UK economy.
Then it was about how there would likely be a brief period of readjustment, but after that the UK economy would take off because the EU, like every nation on earth, would want to sign great trade deals with the UK as it would be in their best interests.
Then posts about how the EU is being nasty to the UK. Also the EU is falling apart. Hurrah!
Meanwhile, investors are moving funds out of the UK, and one business after another is transferring staff and moving the EU part of their business to EU nations.
Some are now saying that the economic hit is worth it to get sovereignty back.
So be it.
The message sure has changed a bit. Of course, the Brexit vote was never supposed to end up ina yes, it was merely an attempt at throwing some raw meat to the nationalists.
Now Farage has started himself a new party, the Brexit Party, to attract hardliners from Teresa May's already very shaky coalition, in case there's any delay beyond March 29th. (I guess the MEP paychecks are about to run out.)
It's effin' amazing to watch. The ship is heading right for the iceberg, and they're squabbling about who gets to be captain.
The message sure has changed a bit. Of course, the Brexit vote was never supposed to end up ina yes, it was merely an attempt at throwing some raw meat to the nationalists.
Now Farage has started himself a new party, the Brexit Party, to attract hardliners from Teresa May's already very shaky coalition, in case there's any delay beyond March 29th. (I guess the MEP paychecks are about to run out.)
It's effin' amazing to watch. The ship is heading right for the iceberg, and they're squabbling about who gets to be captain.
What a load of project fear nonsense.
You really think all trade is suddenly going to stop and the EU will just stop imports and exports.
We can still trade from outside the EU just as the US and China does, indeed the US exports over $500 Billion in to the EU without any problem, whilst China is the second largest exporter in to the EU. If the EU can trade froctionlessly with these countries and ships than travel thousands of miles, it shoulod be able to easily deal with British goods.
As I have already pointed out Britain's HMRC has an on-line processing system that will allow frictionless trade, and most British good come him via container ships.
The EU is eager to sell it's goods in Britain and all sides would want very low tariffs in a no deal situation, indeed some UK Politicians have mentioned zero tariffs which would make products cheaper.
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This constant insistence that the British could have won WWI and WWII without U.S. supplies, U.S. troops, and U.S. generals is wonderful news.
Next time around, the U.S. can limit assistance to thoughts and prayers.
This constant insistence that the US could have won WWI and WWII without UK supplies, UK troops and UK generals is wonderful news.
Next time around, the UK can limit assistance to thoughts and prayers.
But there again you will probably find that the British, Russians, Canadians, Australians etc etc realise that it was a joint effort of the Allies, it only seems to be 'some' Americans that like to think they came a riding in on their horses saving everybody.
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