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Old 01-16-2019, 12:06 PM
 
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When you buy product from a snake oil salesman...guess what...the bottle contains snake oil.

But coal production is up in Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Appalachia total the past 6 months.



Maybe you should take your own advice on snake oil.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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No, what is stupid is the myth Trump sold poor, out of work coal miners on. He said "We are going to bring coal back !" and those poor suckers fell for it. Coal is NEVER coming back.....period.
Employment in coal peaked nearly 100 years ago.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:11 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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This thread is misleading if not dishonest.

I would think the OP knows that coal miners do not operate power plants. The reality is that coal production in 2018 increased a bit over 6% from 2017 while employment in coal mining was up almost 2.5%.

https://www.eia.gov/coal/annual/
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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But coal production is up in Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Appalachia total the past 6 months.



Maybe you should take your own advice on snake oil.

You think that's good news, that more coal is going to foul the air and water in those areas? Maybe one more generation can die from black-lung disease, before coal becomes history.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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How long do you think it takes to get all the permits and equipment to convert a coal plant? Do you think natural gas pipelines install themselves on demand?

The utilities have billions invested in these conversations and it started well before Trump.

What a stupid thread. Seriously ignorant and stupid the direction you tried to take this in.

FAIL.
No, what failed is that Trump voters truly believe that Trump or ANY president can bring back jobs, even those jobs where something like coal isn’t coming back.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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You think that's good news, that more coal is going to foul the air and water in those areas? Maybe one more generation can die from black-lung disease, before coal becomes history.

It's not about WaldoKitty. Do you want to try again?
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:44 PM
 
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No, what failed is that Trump voters truly believe that Trump or ANY president can bring back jobs, even those jobs where something like coal isn’t coming back.

But coal production is up.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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But coal production is up.


waldo, as a scientist you should really be aware correlation =/= causation. So what if coal production is up? Is that resulting in new jobs? For example, US is # 2 globally in manufacturing (on track to be #1) yet jobs disappear daily....as a person employed in a STEM field you should really be aware of the presence of automation by now...perhaps google it..
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:56 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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waldo, as a scientist you should really be aware correlation =/= causation. So what if coal production is up? Is that resulting in new jobs? For example, US is # 2 globally in manufacturing (on track to be #1) yet jobs disappear daily....as a person employed in a STEM field you should really be aware of the presence of automation by now...perhaps google it..
If you follow the link I posted you'll see that coal employment is also up.
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Old 01-16-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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If you follow the link I posted you'll see that coal employment is also up.


yes a whopping 2.4% from 2016 to total of 53K people employed- a figure that is "people employed at coal mines" not "coal miners". Again, more people work at Arbys or Disney World than are employed as coal miners, so are we really calling this a big deal? It's literally a rounding error. Also productivity decreased- should we be celebrating that too? In an economy that adds 140K jobs an mediocre month you're literally going to the mattresses over the fact that in 2 years 1,000 more people are employed at coal mines?
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